Guys.. I need your help? pls help me by reading the message

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Claira, Apr 9, 2009.

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    Hi All

    when i have started SEO of a website i forgot to check the page rank of the website.. Now client is asking wats was my last page rank???? How would i tell him that whats his page rank 2 months back as i duno..


    Pls guys help me out.. I just have 1 day to answer him.....pls have me some tool where i can see old page rank data...
     
    Claira, Apr 9, 2009 IP
  2. shruchi nagar

    shruchi nagar Guest

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    Hi,
    In my opinion, it is not possible to know the page rank before 2 month. Because it depends on the number of back links of web site.
     
    shruchi nagar, Apr 9, 2009 IP
  3. sipltech

    sipltech Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how you started "SEO" before analyzing the present status of website. In your first analysis report, you must have mentioned somewhere about pagerank, present backlinks, no. of pages indexed etc. I think you will show improvements based on that? Just recheck your documents again ;)

    There is no such tool which tell you about the pagerank in past, i suggest now on just keep a screenshot with date on your records :(
     
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  4. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    You explain to them that no one ever knows what their REAL page rank is. What you see in the Google Tool bar is a snapshot of their PR weeks before Google actually issued their last update to the Toolbar PR. By the time Google issues an update like the one at the begining of the month, the new updated PR is already out of date - weeks old.

    Google never tells you your REAL PR. And it is changing constantly. Everytime Google finds a new link to their URL or discovers an old link that was dropped, the REAL PR is instantly recalculated yet the Toolbar PR will not change until the next update - typically once every 3-4 months.

    Google Toolbar PR is generally worthless. It's like seeing the a star in the night sky... The star could have burned out years ago but we still see it because the burned out star is lightyears away and its light from before burning out is still traveling through space. Does the star exist because we see it's light? NO! Does the star appear to exist because we see it's light? YES! Same goes for Google Toolbar PR. You are looking at a snapshot in time from the past... It can be very misleading and is always unreliable as some type of quality benchmark. Take it with a grain of salt.

    They would be better served to look at their rankings now vs then which IS measurable... and the traffic they are getting from organic search now vs then which IS measurable. Unfortunately, if you didn't think to baseline these before making SEO optimizations to their site, I doubt you'll be able to give them these types of data points either.

    If you're going to do SEO and expect to get paid, baselining your clients rankings and traffic before you start making changes to their site is the ONLY real way you can measure whether your optimizations have helped and to what degree.
     
    Canonical, Apr 9, 2009 IP
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  5. sipltech

    sipltech Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree with Canonical here. Wow you really explain well.. Still most of the clients always look PR as a measure of SEO success, sometimes it's real hard to educate them but yes, if they see a significant change in traffic they often ignore PR thing too.

    (like to mention,) I read somewhere in this forum about PR bingo, [if you have PR5 and above you can make real good money with your website.] This post by Canonical is an well detailed answer.
     
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  6. welivethis

    welivethis Peon

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    Well, I would suggest following Canonical's advice here, BUT take it as a lesson learned. If you are offering SEO services, you really should provide a before and after analysis report for your customer, which means of course, documenting how the site was before you touched it. That will not only be beneficial to the customer, but it might save you in the event that your client refuses to pay you because they think that you didn't do what they were going to pay you for.
     
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  7. sultanofseo

    sultanofseo Notable Member

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    tell then their PR was a big fat ZERO :D just kidding. no way to find out actually
    ...i can't understand however how can someone start working on an SEO project without having the site's current analysis recorded
     
    sultanofseo, Apr 9, 2009 IP