But why don't they put a child up for adoption if they think the memory is too much. Sorry, I'm just not getting it.
I really think this should be a non issue, and every single woman has her own choice regarding her reproductive rights. To tell her yes or no, is a clear violation of her human rights, it is a choice that she must make alone. Not what you say, the government says or anyone else says. This is why CHOICE is the key to life and the US. We have the right to choose one way or another, affecting the outcome of our life with a choice. To take that choice away is to throw away the constitution, just because a few people think otherwise. WHO ARE THEY TO TELL WOMEN THEY CANNOT CHOOSE FOR THEMSELVES?
Well I don't know about some women, but I certainly wouldn't want to carry a baby to term after a rape. Personally, it would be too painful and difficult.
Totally understood, and it's not about trying to tell someone else what they should do. That of course is easy. But I do believe that there are sometimes solutions even if we don't see them at the point. And what really pisses me off is when I see how society at times pushes women almost into having an abortion because "it makes more sense".
oh ok so abortion is ok sometimes but not others? its really is all or nothing, you can't say abortion is bad but then say it is ok sometimes, that is clear contradiction. so is it yes or no to abortion?
A clear no against abortion period, but also an understanding that we can't always control what others do. So ... no easy solution ... but I don't believe that we should make it too easy. Or push someone into it. Because believe it or not, in many cases, that's what society does.
Society doesn't only push people towards abortion, look at how many figure heads and people push people away from abortion. There is not one way forces the other, it is happening in both directions. Which is why this must remain a choice. Those who disagree with abortion....well don't get any, but don't try to tell others they can't. people who agree with and use abortion, well that is there choice, but they too cannot try to force their ideals on others, but this also does not occur. It seems pro lifers are only trying to change everyone else, and pro choicers understand the basic human rights to choice and allow women to choose for or against abortion with no problems.
lol, so abortion is ok sometimes and not others? that doesn't sound like a firm stance. How can it be ok sometimes and not ok other times? just trying to understand that logic. So if its "killing" to you, its ok sometimes but not others, i dont understand ...
Obviously, abortion is one topic that no one is ever going to completely agree with. I do believe that the legality of abortion should be all or nothing, and that women should be allowed to make that choice for themselves.
yea that is very true, people do not want to think they are wrong, which is fully understandable. ITs like the question of god and life, there is no "winning" side. But i still think abortion should be a choice, it is the only way that both sides have a right to choose there own path, without forcing decisions onto people who have no right to choose themselves, that is just like nazism
True, but I don't understand the logic behind "ABORTION IS MURDER... except when the woman has been raped." All of a sudden, the child isn't worthy of living? What happens to the pro-life stance, "life begins at conception."
How many of the people that are discussing this issue, in this thread, actually have a baby ? Did any of you hold a 1 hour old, 3Kg, 40cm tall baby in it's hands ? How can you deny life to that baby ?
well of course there are limits to when abortion can happen, such as late term, or post-birth. If you held the child in your hands, i'd say its too late to abort. you are not denying life to the child if the child has not been born. Should n't is still be the choice of the mother? I think the point was that pro lifers like yourself are saying tha abortion is terrible and murder, but is ok when rape is inolved. Well why do you distinguish between one "child" to the next. By going back on your statements of abortion being bad and saying its ok at somepoints, the entire prolife standpoint is out of the window...no?
No, I'm not confused at all. I know exactly where I stand as far as abortion is concerned; Pro-choice, all the way. Abortions should be legal in all cases. What I don't understand is where you are coming from. Why would you allow an abortion in the case of rape, but prefer abortions to be illegal in all other cases?
That's true, but your using an example of a happily conceived baby with loving parents, not all births are like that. At least the child was yours, at least you were still there to hold the baby, at least the mother was still alive to see it. You can't generalise into specific cases which is may point - people should be given the choice.