Back Link and Anchor Text Questions

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Trevoris, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. #1
    I have read alot of information on building back links and using an anchor text to help you get ranked for that term. Some say it works great do it with all your links that you can and others say you can be penalized for it.

    Also how many links should be built per month in general?

    Any help would be great I have a site with several terms on the 2nd and 3rd page of google and id like to get them to the first page.

    thanks,


    - Trevor
     
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  2. rajkodirekka

    rajkodirekka Peon

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    #2
    i think link building is great for best keyword position.........but in limit
     
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  3. Trevoris

    Trevoris Peon

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    #3
    I agree I am just not sure how much to do each month and if anchor text is a good idea or I should stay away from it.


    - Trevor
     
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  4. ploked

    ploked Peon

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    #4
    i would do it in moderation. you will definitely throw up some red flags if you get 10,000 links to your site in a day. i would prob set a target number like 25 to go after each day. some links will appear right away, others will have to get approved, but in the end it should appear natural since you are getting a few links here and a few links there each day and not all at once.
     
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  5. RickGueli

    RickGueli Greenhorn

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    #5
    I do not believe there is a set limit to the number of links you get. If it is something you are doing now, or are outsourcing, just make sure it is from as many different link-back sources as possible. Time is not an issue, as there are websites who get MANY links all at once (especially "breaking news" websites) but shoot right to the top of the search engines because the links they get come from varied sources that have already ESTABLISHED themselves with the search engines.
     
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  6. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    #6
    There is no magic number... It depends on the site and what looks 'natural'.

    If you normally pick up 1 or 2 links per month and all of a sudden you start getting thousands of links, you could possibly trigger a filter or a manual review.

    I would suggest to avoid the potential for getting in trouble with it that you slowly ramp up so that it looks like what is 'natural' for your site is slowly changing.

    But then others will tell you it doesn't matter if you go from years of getting no links to getting 10s of thousands per month. I tend to error slightly on the side of caution so as not to see all of my link building efforts go up in smoke.

    But that is just me... It's a risk vs. reward thing... If you can afford getting penalized because it is a disposable domain, then submit your site to thousand of directories or whatever.
     
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  7. evelinawilliams007

    evelinawilliams007 Notable Member

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    Look for quality links (preferably high PR). It's not a numbers game and no you won't be penalized for building 1000 links day that is just a myth you may get penalized if all the links are from links farms, social networks, directories, blog comments and such. (any place that google may consider it spam)

    I'd suggest you research your keywords and use anchor text links but vary them. It's when you use a single anchor text for 1000 links then google penalizez your site. Therefore research 10 - 20 long tail keywords related to your site/business and use them as anchor text links on related dofollow sites.
     
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  8. Trevoris

    Trevoris Peon

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    Thanks alot for the advice everyone im going to put it to work. One question about the anchor text if for example my page is about a product " Johns dog collars " ( example ) and I want to rank for thatn keyword. If I start mixing up the anchor text to similar stuff like " How good are Johns dog collars " will it take away from the main keywords im trying to target.

    thanks,


    - Trevor
     
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  9. BlackhatVault

    BlackhatVault Banned

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    You have to use your main keywords as your anchor text in your backlinks to optimize your site for that keyword. In the above the two keywords are differetn even though they share common phrase but google will not count the two keywords same.
     
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  10. silvertone1000

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    A good guideline to the number of links you should obtaine by day/month is:
    Would you feel comfortable telling a Google web spam employee the number of links you have obtained?
     
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  11. Trevoris

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    I plan to build links slowly and watch my results. My only cofusion is that I am told not to use the same keyword phrase for all my backlinks in my anchor text but what if that page is only optimized for the one phrase and thats the one rank I want.


    - Trevor
     
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  12. teenwolf41

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    Back links can only help with SEO. Make sure that they are paying off and come from sites with high PR/good alexa rankings.
     
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    blichev Peon

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    #13
    Try to use some variations of your keyword as an anchor text, this is definitely better than using the same keyword as ancho text everywhere.

    Start slowly in the beginning and then build more and more links per day as your site grows.
     
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  14. easy autoblogs

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    to be honest.. you can throw about 50-100 links a day to your site and you should be sweet as..

    you have to remember that all the search engines will not find all the links that you get at the same time...

    You could go higher as well...
     
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  15. Canonical

    Canonical Well-Known Member

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    It is recommended that you vary the link text. It looks totally unnatural if you have 1000 backlinks and every one of them say "John's dog collar". Plus that only gives that URL a chance to rank for that one term. By varying the link text you also gain the advantage of having that same URL rank for lots of slight variations of that keyword phrase.

    If you want to rank for "John's dog collars" you'll want some links w/ exactly that term plus "John's dog collar" (singular), "dog collars", "dog collar","buy John's dog collars", "dog collars by John", "brown dog collars", "pink dog collars", "best dog collars", "great dog collars", "John's dog collars are great", "John's collars", whatever...

    These keyword phrases as link text will all help you rank for the term "John's dog collars"... Of course, links with link text that exactly match the search term will help more... so you would prefer to have a larger percentage of these or longer phrases that contain the target phrase like "Buy more John's dog collars".

    You don't need 90% to exactly match the targeted phrase, but having even 30 or 40% of your inbound links with the link text exactly matching and then the rest made up of a bunch of random phrases that contain any number of the 3 individual keywords or combinations of those keywords will help.

    I would first look at your own site and vary the text used to link to the targeted URL on your own site... Believe me. It helps.
     
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  16. Trevoris

    Trevoris Peon

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    Awesome thanks Canonical that makes perfect sense. Im off to make it happens.

    thanks everyone,


    - Trevor
     
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