Hey folks. I'm starting a little narrow focus directory, only 6 categories, no subs. But before I do, I wanted to create a page to just sit there for a few months with just a few links to very high PR sites within the overall industry. I'm hoping that this investment of time will lead to the page gaining PR. The page will have really good related content text on it, and about 10 links to the highest PR site I can find, with a little descriptive text, like a summary of the link Will this work? Will this page gain PR, let's say, over a 6 month period? I'll keep pointing as many High PR links as I can to it along the way, but I'm thinking of an overall investment in time. When the Page get's PR, I'll implement the categories. Will this plan work?
According to PR formula you get PR for incoming links not for outcoming. Outcoming links don't have influence on your PR, according to original formula.
I thought that outbound links do affect Pagerank because of the quaility of the links and there contextual use. I have a site running right now, my wedding site, that has no links to it at all. After 6 months, a PR 3.
I think outbound links may be a factor in pagerank - if relevant and trusted like you said. Be interesting to hear what happens with your experiment.
Yes, otbound links don't have any affect on PR. They can affect PR flow around the site however. A lot of outgoing links on your index page for example will hinder PR reaching lower level pages.
Hmmm... Interesting... Care to explain how exactly they help? As far as I know, if you have good outbound links to quality sites, you are getting closer to what a "good hub" is... Warkot
Thaey don't, apart from making it easier to get incoming links through exchanges. Google comes top of the SERPS for 'search engine' yet they don't have any outgoing links on thir page, all inbound. The perfect site is so useful that it encouragres people to link to them through offering a service or information people can't help but link to - as with Adobe Acrobat Change 'outbound links ' to 'inbound links from' in that sentance and you'd be correct.
I firmly believe that if you want your page to be classed as a useful resource you need to have outgoing links to other useful resources. Outgoing links help the search engines classify the subject matter of your pages.
Possibly in terms of being classed as an 'authority' site, though I've not seen anything that proves this one way or another. In terms of rankings I can't see that outgoing links improve SERPS positions at all. It's a popular misconception that adding links to similar sites help your rankings. They may help 'theme' your site but I'd be very surprised if anything more than a negligable benefit was gained in terms of rankings.
I think I remember reading somewhere that outbound links DO affect websites because of the quality of the link and the CONTEXTUAL position that you use them. If my one page has important, relevant information infomation about the industry that I'm specifying, with links to "trusted" resources that it does affect PR because of the quality of the link and the way you use it. After BigDaddy, everybody and there mother was completely going off on a couple of things. Reciprical links lost a s*load of validity. IBL's from trusted resources OBL to related content only. I know this last one affected my SERP and PR in a big way on my outdoor furniture site, because my recip area had the infamous "Internet Resources" for all those recip directories. I read, and I think it was at SEW, or WPW, that if you are linking to non related sites, your PR and SERP would go down, because the SOURCE material you are citing has NOTHING to do with the industry you are in. Once I got rid of those Internet, and the ever popular real estate recip links, my site went back up in SERP and PR. As I'm writing this, I just found one of my sources for the theory. http://pr.efactory.de/e-outbound-links.shtml Again, my test is going to be very relevant to the industry I'm sourcing; a NARROW focus, so I think PR will follow. Again, any thoughts, or is ol' rumblepup going nutso freaky in the head.
Time alone will not result in a page being assigned PageRank. PageRank of any page is determined by the links pointing to the page, not the outbound links on the page. If I create a search engine and link to Google, Yahoo and MSN Search, my PageRank will not increase over time as a result of doing so... None of the above will affect the PageRank of the linking page, only the pages you link to... The only reason the page will gain PageRank will be due to the links you point to the page. Don't point any links to it and it won't have any PageRank. Related content and relevance will affect your position in the search results and not your PageRank.
I have read this too, although I cannot seem to recall the source. If I remember right, it is a matter of the "bad neighborhood" theory espoused by Matt Cutts (http://www.mattcutts.com/blog) of the Google team. If I remember right, if you have dozens of links going to bad neighborhood sites, then your outbound links can hurt your PageRank. Bill Platt
I don't really agree, it's vice versa. As far as I remember from previously reading up on the patent, the basics behind the hub-authority model are as follows: Authority sites have lots of useful theme-related content and lots of incoming links from hub sites. Good hub sites have lots of outbound links to authority sites. So again, if you link to authority sites, you are becoming a better hub site for a certain topic. A quick search in Google gave me this, for example: http://www.tutorial-reports.com/int...hp?PHPSESSID=bfe4fb89ec670a5fb242004c489fff2f Your call, MattUK Warkot
Yes I agree that having good outgoing links to relevant sites could help lead to a site being regarded as an authority site, however, 1. Outgoing links have no effect on PR whatsoever 2. Outgoing links on their own won't help you at all to rank. You'll still have to put the hard work in and get enough relevant incoming links to rank well anyway.
My point was, to being regarded a hub, site, not an authority site. The more outgoing links to good authority resources your site has, the greater your site's hub value, not authority value. And if you own a good hub site, others will, of course, want you to link to them. Sure, I fully agree with that. Yep. My point too. Warkot
Again, guys, what I'm trying to do is create an authoritive web page. The page just wont feature a bunch of links, but relevant text and summary text of the pages I will link to. Then I will let it sit there to try to gain PR over time. I know that time is not the factor that determines PR, but I know that history gains certain awarness. Yes, I will try to get inbound links. As many as I can, from trusted sources. However, I've seen pages just sit there, over a period of time, with nothing but links on them, GAIN PR. If something as simple as one of those marker pages "This site for sale" and in the meantime, they are running an ad and search site on it, can gain PR, why can't this model?
The ONLY way you can gain PR is if sites link to you. PR is passed though incoming links, no other way.