Poll:At what point should abortions be legal?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rick_Michael, Jul 9, 2006.

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Poll: At what point should abortions be legal?

  1. Legal in all cases

    8 vote(s)
    22.2%
  2. Legal within the first 6 months

    2 vote(s)
    5.6%
  3. Legal within the first 3 months

    9 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Legal only for rape, incest, and women's life

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  5. Legal only if women's life's in definitive danger

    4 vote(s)
    11.1%
  6. Always illegal

    6 vote(s)
    16.7%
  7. Not sure but lean towards 'life'

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  8. Not sure but lean towards 'choice'

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
  9. You mean I can't kill my 18 year old? ; )

    1 vote(s)
    2.8%
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  1. maldives

    maldives Prominent Member

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    #21
    Always illegal! I think we can not kill an innocent baby.
     
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  2. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #22
    Would you feel differnt Maldives if it was your wife and she was likely to die if she gave birth?
     
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  3. latehorn

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    #23
    I never said that it wasn't
     
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  4. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #24
    So the stats you posted are pointless then since they don't represent the true figures? You were just hoping nobody would notice. Nice try :D

    Back to the point anyway........

     
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  5. latehorn

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    #25
    Never said that I would be happy. I wouldn't be able to judge such decision if it happened in real life.

    I was just noting that you was over-reflecting your own perspective.

    What happens with the body when you remove it to the outside world? Nothing significant other than that you put it into a new environment. The brain and the organs still looks pretty much the same even an hour a few years later. Sperm merging with the egg is however the most important step. It creates the invidual.

    Wat's oppostion?

    Anyway, there's different between innocent people and bad people. I don't think the mother has the right to commit death penalty to her innocent kids. However the justice win when the abortions fail.
     
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  6. latehorn

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    #26
    It's sad that some people thinks killing innocents is a right. :cool:

    It is showing some effects that happened as a result of the abortion law.
     
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  7. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #27
    Each and every abortion is a real life decision. You still haven't answered, avoiding the question? :)

    Huh? Can you explain that one?

    That's your opinion and not mine. I don't be lieve life is purely a biological thing. If it was we'd be the same as the animals? Is a monkey a human, it's probably closer to a human than a foetus?

    Just a little sarcasm my friend, drawing attantion to the incosistancies in your reasoning?

    Yes,a nd everyone that dies in Iraq deserves ir right, they're only Muslim, not 'real' people like our foetuses right?
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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  9. latehorn

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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #30
    Nice post editing btw :)

    It's sad that some people thinks killing is a right
    to
    It's sad that some people thinks killing innocents is a right.

    You can guarantee that people that are executed are 100% guilty can you? Or doesn't anybody ever get aquitted? Or are the 'innocents' just a unavoidable collatoral damage?
     
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  11. latehorn

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    #31
    My thoughts are that I will would feel bad whatever happened. However, If the last escape was to chose between an abort and my wifes death. I would chose the second. It would be a personal tragic, but I know that it's the only right thing to do in the end.

    Read the quote and think yourself. You are stating rights from your fantasy instead of suggesting them.

    Mayby a grown up zebra is closer to beeing a bear than a bear itself :rolleyes:

    Wrong answer. It's simply not a word.

    Many people thinks that Middle East should be nuked down. I'm not one of those. But the situation is pretty hopeless down there. Actions have to be made to prevent worser things to happen. I'm not going to explain further on this issue, I have business to do. If you want to know about the Iraq war, there's a zillion old threads in this section about them. Find them and pay special attention to Gtechs, my, loriens and Wills entries(if you are interested). If you want to bring up a new discussion about that, create a new thread. This is offtopic here.
     
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  12. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #32
    Hmmm, we'll se if you feel any different when you actually love someone. I suspect you said that just to prove a point in a debate. If you meant it it pity any woman that comes close you you.

    Yes, I'm stating what I believe is right, are you not? Who's beliefs are you advocating? Does someone else tell you what to think?

    Is that a proverb or did you get it from a Bush speech?

    Sorry, inconsistencies, I wish my spelling was as perfect as yours :p

    But, perhaps you can explain how you can rationalise the two statements that YOU made?
    and
    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=595063&postcount=8
    Can you explain or shall I just not take your views seriously from now on?

    Do you actually KNOW anyone that things this? Someone who has more than half a brain cell? It would probably explain a few things about your strage views on the world.

    And it's fine to kill a few babies and foetuses right?
    this is despite Latehorns first commandment of................
    Were there not innocents killed?
     
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  13. boozerc2004

    boozerc2004 Peon

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    #33
    thats silly, there is no way crime is detoured due to abortions...there is more crime now than ever before.thats crazy talk...abortions need to be outlawed worldwide....its MURDER!
     
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    #34
    It looks like at this point:
    70% for 3 months or less
    30% for no limits


    90% of abortions are done within the first trimester, and I do think if that 10% period was eliminated ie you only had the first trimester, you'd see the issue be a lot smaller than it is now. Not gone, but not as big. JMO.
     
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    #35
    That's what I voted for. With the exception of medical neccessity people should be able to come to a decision within the first trimester.
     
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  16. DeniseJ

    DeniseJ Live, Laugh, Love

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    #36
    What now? You think the life of a child is more valuable than the life of an elderly person who has accumulated life experience and wisdom that are invaluable to the population at large?

    Why don't we just haul off and murder all of the old people of the world and make way for the younger generation, then? My GOSH, what kind of arguement is that?

    As far as the question at hand, abortion should be legal in all cases. There's no middle ground. Either it's legal or it isn't.
     
    DeniseJ, Jul 12, 2006 IP
  17. Rick_Michael

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    #37
    Some day it will happen. >: )

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  18. latehorn

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    #38
    Then why not say it should be right instead of making it sound like constitutional law?

    I am honored to be compared with him. I am a fan of Bush. Someone I always look up to. However, I was smart enough to make that quote myself ;)

    I don't think my spelling is really any better. At least not my grammar. But then again, English is only my second language. I thought that word meant something else LOL.

    Yes, I can. I support Capital punishment. I do however not support punishment between civillians.

    Your argument is aburd. Just because you hate something, you don't have to be mentally retarded. Hitler wasn't extremly smart, but he wasn't dumb either, otherways, he would never succeed to become a fuhr.

    Many people believe Middle East needs to be nuked into a parkinglot. That's because of partly fear but also from the historically bounded violence and extreme beliefs. I don't like to give out names, but I remember that respectable DP users have explained the idea such as Blogmaster, ly2 and Henny.

    Heh.. made some spelling corrections btw.. :)
     
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  19. MattUK

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    #39
    I thought that was what we were debating? I'm glad it sounds that way, I guess you're becoming convinced yourself if it sounds like that :p

    That explains everything

    Well it's not, as far as I'm aware in most countries you need a licence to practice medicine. Would a prison guard be any more legitimate that a doctor? I don't believe so. Like G-Tech said, it's strange that some people seem to be so inconsistent in their beliefs. I guess it's just because some people are just ill informed and irrational in their beliefs though.

    No that's correct, but you've have to be pretty retarded to believe that nuking an entire area would solve any problems. Especially when that area is the major source of the worlds oil production. Nice thinking Einstein!

    Ditto :rolleyes:
     
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  20. latehorn

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    #40
    That was why I complained.
    Well the qoute had a point. Read the comment I quoted and laugh at yourself :p

    They have different tasks, matt. A doctor needs education to ensure the best health of mostly innocent citizens while a prison guard needs another kind of education to take care of the dangerous prisoners. A millitary prisonguard may just have a few months of education, but I'm not sure a 55 year old rocket scientist would do the job any better.

    Well just because you nuke them doesn't mean you can pick the major oil resources. And most of the oil resources is in the Persian Gulf and it's coastline.

    Edit: the relevant thread turned into an off-topic thread.
     
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