Hi, I've recently launched a site and I am wondering how long do I have to wait before I see the following: 1) PR1 2) Some sort of Alexa rank 3) Search engines to pick up What are some of the methods that you guys have used to get those done faster? Are link building going to help? Then where should I start? Thank you.
I think it's 3 months before you see a PR update (on internal pages anyway). You'll have missed one that is immenent probably. PR 1? You need backlinks. Get into the forums and join in as much as possible - leaving a link behind on your "signature". Find a few forum pages (on relevent forums to your website) that have PR 4 or 5 and join in on that discussion if it's one page. Get more links and you could be assigned a PR 5 for a new site. All mine do - and only with some genuine participation in the forums. Links=PR so get linking! Be relevent where possible! Find free directories and add your site and possibly write an article about your site and post it on GoArticles or ezine articles. Also - forget about Google search engine traffic for the first 6 months. Just concentrate on getting links and writing articles. Traffic will probably incremently increase during this time, but dont rely on SE's unless you have a super-niche your exploiting (are there any an more?). Enjoy!
And remember you'll be sandboxed for up to (in my recent experience 8 months ) for high value keyword terms in Google. So you wont rank in Google for your main keywords - go geographic and target your area first - ie "blue widgets, Glasgow" + "blue widgets, Scotland" and by the time you are out of the sandbox you may rank decent for "blue widgets" Oh dear - that'll be another coople of IBL (in bound links) I'll be leaving behind with this post....get it? Just remember to not be a nuissance and try to participate properly and ethically where you intend to join in - whatever forum you choose. Not only will you get IBL, you'll learn more about your subject, business and make some pals! Come on Portugal!
A PR 1-4 is easy to get. I got a PR 4 with a few links after a month of it being online. Just get some affiliates and you'll be fine.
As the posts above me say, just spend the first couple of months (or more) building links by submitting to directories, publishing articles with backlinks in your sig, and contributing to forums related to your website (which will yield traffic as well as link popularity). Your PR will rise eventually. --Tony
Can some people post when they got their PR changed last? And than before that? Just wondering when next update is.
I've seen people saying update will be today (7th July) but don't know where they get the info from...
Er..Yes - a 4 is easy. PR is like the richter scale tho' - a 5 is quite easy but a six is quite difficult for most people - a 6 usually means a well linked to site. ArcticPro - the last PR update before you got a 4 was probably 2 months before your new site was launched. Generally, people expect one this month - but Google is a dogs dinner just now, and all over the place in some sectors because of Spam (primarily made for adsense sites). If you have a new site, tho' avoid affiliates like the plague. They take a bit of getting used to or you'll just waste a lot of time and effort chasing fradulent leads etc - and Google doesnt like too many affiliate links on your page. Stay clear of affiliates. They use javascript in links that dont pass pr. Visit blogs and forums and directories and get your links the hard way. Get one or two links from high pr pages and you you'll soon aquire pr. Remember - PR is passed from pages - not websites.
1) PR1 it is easy to get a PR 1. acatually it is easy to get a PR 4, but then it gets tricky. Just get some RELATED links, one-way is better, but recp is also good. Try adding your site to wikipedia I have a few few PR 7 links. joining a realted forum is also a great idea as noted above 2) Some sort of Alexa rank Alexa ranking really doesn't matter. If your selling something sometimes people will use alexa ranking to make decision thought (I wouldn't buy web hosting from a company with ranking of 1.5 million) You can get ranking to about 100k just by visiting your own site a few times a day I've heard. 3) Search engines to pick up msn - 1 day google - use google sitemaps yahoo - ??? really it just depends, sometimes it's luck, get some links and they will pickyou up, good luck
I launched my website in May and I have yet to see a PR. I guess you have to be patient until Google eventually gives you a PR.
PR is updated quarterly. PR update list. As others mentioned up to PR4 is quite easily to get. To get PR6 might be quite difficult.
Can anyone here formulate in plain English why all the PageRank obsession? (Well, OK, to sell links, I know. But seems like the person who asked the original question is not interested in that.) PR means nothing. Nothing. Really. Relevant links that translate into traffic and sales is what's important. Warkot
Hm, in my expirience if fresh site got PR7 link it is spidered and indexed in Google in days. Some deep pages will be indexed. I've seen post recently "I've eventually after a year succeded to get my site into google's index". I laught.
I posted my site on google a couple of months ago but I used a flash menu, so basically it destroyed all internal linking, and on the same day that i changed to css, i gained 2 PR! I knew my site was already indexed, but dont you think that was quick to gain PR on a change you made that day
I'd be interesting as to why my site has a PR of 0 still... Its been 2 full months and i have 400+ backlinks.... I've been pretty diligent about submitting to directories, relates sites, etc... Not even a PR 1, tho. Its depressing. Speaking of backlinks, can anyone explain why I would loose close to 10% of them. The future page rank checker at iwebtool had over 520 last week, now its showing 460+. Warkot - I think the obsession comes with trying to find out how well your site is doing. Especially, if its not making any money...
Warkot - i'd take issue that Page Rank means nothing - but i agree about obsessing over it. And yes you are correct when saying as an seo excercise aquiring PR and getting eyes on your website are two totally differnet things. PR is only one of a lot of factors Google looks at. I gernerally treat it as a measure of trust for your site - and once you have a PR 5 site, I find you can generally compete in a lot of different sectors with internal pages linked to from your own home page - you can rank top in google with a PR 0 page on your site (if linked to from your home page). jeremyweber - If you read the thread you'll see the PR Update is due anytime now - a site built 2 months ago might still not aquire PR in the next update. tho' - you may just have missed the threshold.
Well, yes, this is PR-dependant. Google will crawl a site with a higher PR value more often. [rant on] But I'm sick and tired of people being obsessed with PR for PR sake. Yes it's good if you sell links and if you want to get indexed quickly, but that's pretty much all there is to it. [/rant off] Don't laugh... Maybe some people still submit their sites as Google tells them to. Warkot
You haven't been using any black-hat SEO now, have you? For example, if people linked to you in exchange for your link to them, some of them may have simply dropped their links. Now they hope you won't notice. Is Google coming to your site? Are all your pages indexed? This is to diagnose the obvious mistakes. If everything's fine, you should forget about toolbar PR and focus on your SERPs. As we all know, there's the toolbar PR and the real PR. If your pages are indexed and have links like you say -- this means they already have some internal PR, which Google doesn't show you (yet), but which Google does use to calculate your rankings. Your SERPs and internal PR are updated constantly, and basically in real time. So stop fretting about your toolbar PR (you'll see it with time) and focus on your rankings and traffic. That would be my advice. Warkot PS: Personally, I'd rather Google threw away that PR feature, at least from the Firefox/IE toolbars... Then more people would spend less time on what's not nearly as important as other aspects of SEO -- the toolbar PageRank