GOD to Mankind: RELATIONSHIIP/Mankind to GOD: Religion

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Nehemiah, Mar 16, 2009.

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    When GOD Created mankind in HIS image and likeness, HE did so with ONLY RELATIONSHIP, and not Religion, in Mind. GOD's Plan is/was so far from that of Religion, until HE didn't/doesn't allow any mentioning of it until The New Testament. . .That's right, contrary to popular belief, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, David, nor even Solomon, were religious nor practiced a "religion".

    If you want to know what "Religion" is, with regards to Spirituality/Scriptural ("Biblical") things, then we should know certain things about "Religion" from Scripture: like what it is, what it isn't and and/or why one is acceptable to GOD, and the other is not acceptable to HIM.

    THE WORD of GOD's definition of Religion: "Pure and undefiled religion before GOD and THE FATHER is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.(James 1:27NKJV)"

    Religion is a good thing when done ONLY GOD'S Prescribed way, but when mankind adds his two-cents, then “Pure and undefiled”, can and does become impure and defiled. The Greek Word that translate into “religion” is thrēskeia (pronounced:thrā-skā'-ä) and it means, External worship, the kind which consists of ceremonies. And GOD isn’t the least bit interested in “Eternal worship” as a way of trying to Impress him. . . .which is the man-made purpose of Religion in the first place, because,
    “GOD IS SPIRIT, and those who worship HIM must worship in SPIRIT (Internally First and Foremost) and TRUTH. (John 4:24NKJV)”

    You can see the entrance into this world, of the first semblance of Religion in Genesis 3, when the serpent/Satan/the devil, says to Eve (and Adam) ". . .you shall not surely die..."; and then its first practiced when Adam and Eve "sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons"; we see it fully practiced when Cain, in Genesis 4, brings an offering to GOD that was totally unacceptable to GOD.

    The bottom line with man-made Religion, as we know it today, is that it is man-made, it focuses solely on “do this and don’t do that”; and it is because it is man-made, that it adds to and/or takes from THE WORD of GOD/Scripture which is according to Scripture, Sin. Practicing a man-made Religion doesn't make you any more acceptable to GOD, than barking makes you a dog.

    JESUS CHRIST Never Practiced any man made Religion, whatsoever. You may say, "but wait, Jesus kept the commandments", found in the Law of Moses ("The Torah"). That's not practicing Religion, but rather, being Obedient to THE WORD of GOD.

    And if anyone is a Child of GOD and/or hopes to become a child of GOD, he/she won't accomplish it by practicing a man-made Religion. . .ANY man-made "Religion", but ONLY by being IN GOD'S ONLY Begotten SON, JESUS CHRIST.
     
    Nehemiah, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  2. SolutionX

    SolutionX Peon

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    I like that. Thanks for the good post. :)
     
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  3. Roman

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    Who are you trying to convince? Yourself?
     
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    Nehemiah Peon

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    SolutionX, You're very welcome; and thank you for that very kind gesture.:D
     
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    it career Notable Member

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    #5
    God has got nothing to do with religion . Suppose a huge commet hit earth and human species is annihilated and so are all religions , will god cease to exist ? will the statement like "Only I can lead you to God" apply for another human like species created by God in future?

    Religion is made of fear and temptation , that is if you do sin you burn in hell, if you accept our god, you go to eternal heaven ,etc ,etc God is pure love and delight , or else God is source of all creation , it has got nothing to do with relgion.
     
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  6. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    Actually, I'm already convinced. . .so now then, who does that leave between me (the answerer) and you (the questioner)???

    GOD wants you as HIS [Everlasting] son; you seem to want HIM as your everlasting reject. My question to you is WHY?
     
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  7. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    If God existed I never would reject him but unfortunatlly I have never been show anything to convince me of his existence, but if by chance he/she/it does exist I hope it's not the same god portrayed in your bible.
     
    Roman, Mar 22, 2009 IP
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    Yet another thread started by him to attempt to convert people. NO ONE IS BUYING YOUR KOOL-AID.

    Unless, of course, you have something besides the bible to prove his/her existance.
     
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    #9
    Pssst... your God seems a little jealous and egotistical to me...

    Sounds man made... :x
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    makes you wonder what kind of "god" would offer no evidence supporting his existence, fabricate mountains of evidence contradicting what he wrote in his little book and then burn for eternity whoever disbelieves it exists.

    But then, i think you only have to look at the people who believe in him compared to those who don't to realise what kind of god it is.
     
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  11. Nehemiah

    Nehemiah Peon

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    And just what "god" is "portrayed in" the "bible"? Are you talking about THE GOD that has yet to wipe your sorry unbelieving ass off the face of the Planet? Is that the one?

    Maybe you're talking about THE GOD WHO provides you with more Mercy and Grace than you can ever, as a sorry unbelieving south end of a northbound horse, imagine? Is that THE ONE?
     
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    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    God will send another prophet to delivery the message.

    This is basically life. If you do good, you will succeed in life. If you do bad, you have higher chances of getting raped in Jail. Religion is pretty much similar. If you believe in God you enter heaven, if not you enter hell.

    If God shows that he does exist, will it not be meaningless for this life? I mean every one will then Believe. This life is a test, you either pass or fail.

    The creation of life as we know it will not have a purpose then.

    If you don't belief in the existing of God, you will enter hell for eternity, this is a rule of thumb.


    Those who don't belief in him are the ones with 50% chance less of succeeding.

    For those who belief in God, they will enter heaven. If for any reason God doesn't exist, we won't be losing anything - like us, you don't do most of the things we aren't allowed. The problem pertains to those who don't belief in God actually find out in the day of judgment that God is real.

    Peace,
     
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    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    #13
    You really don't have to resort to insults to prove your point.

    Peace,
     
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    Of course you neglect to acknowledge that pascals wager relies entirely on you picking the right god. it's pretty pointless kneeling to allah or yahweh if it's vishnu doing the judging.

    I think you should recalculate your percentages with that fact in mind.
     
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    That wasn't an "insult", that was a statement of fact about an "uncircumcised philistine (1Sa 17:26ff)" that so-called "Christians" like you, allow to intimidate yourselves?

    Now, that was an insult!
     
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    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I believe that as long as you have a monotheism belief, you have a chance of entering heaven. Then again, I only tend to belief in Abrahamic religions only.

    Peace,
     
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    Well now you are making it up as you go along. None of the Abrahamic religions say you get into heaven just for having a monotheistic belief, They all say it's our way or the highway.

    You are also making the enourmouse assumption that if a god does exist it would have to be a monotheitstic god or an abrihamic god. What if it's thor, Baal or the great juju up the mountain? Or even all three?

    This is exactly why pascals wager doesn't make any sense.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    To each his own, I believe the OP has been making too many repeated threads on same or similar topics and I would deeply appreciate if he can tune down his choice of words. I believe in God, but I respect stOx's views, he as well as others have very different perspectives. IMHO we should learn from each other, respect each others' differences and their rights to be different without any harsh or unkind words.
     
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    nooo you can't ban nemiaha!! i love having good debates with him... it was only a matter of time though :(
     
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    OMG.... Our GOD Father is banned now..... :(
     
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