Remember the BIG LIE that Russia attacked Georgia? And the blame that they put on Russia for the war in Ossetia? Now many months after the media seccessfully brainwashed much of the public including many on this forum, they decided to speak out the truth. EU commission: Saakashvili triggered the war in South Ossetia Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili was the initiator of the military aggression against South Ossetia. Such a conclusion was made by the European Commission which had been investigating the reasons of the war in the republic. The reason for such a conclusion was the secret order issued by Mikhail Saakashvili. Saakashvili triggered the war in South Ossetia Strangely enough, the open statement made by Mamuka Kurashvili, a brigadier general of the Georgian army and the chief of a staff of peacekeeping operations in Georgia's conflict zones in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, on August 7, did not cause any worries. The European Commission paid attention to a TV interview, in which the Georgian general declared that the Georgian leaders had made the decision “to rebuild the constitutional order in South Ossetia.†The war in South Ossetia began on August 8, 2008. The amusing fact is that subsequently Kurashvili justified his statement by saying that he had had a contusion. However, the secret document published by German magazine Spiegel on Sunday was much more weighty evidence for the EU investigation. According to Spiegel, Kurashvili’s statement is literally contained in N2 order issued by the Georgian commanders-in-chief dated of August 7. The document was intercepted by Russian secret services and delivered to the European commission.... http://english.pravda.ru/world/ussr/23-03-2009/107279-EU_commission_Saakashvili-0 The Big Question now is: Why America is giving a cover for the true war Criminal Saakashvili? May be he was acting on orders from the bush admin? Just a question.
Ahhhh, ok. I see where you're going with this. Another Anti Bush/US statement. I guess it's such a horrible concept that a soverign country try to keep order in one of their territories. But, then when attacked by a foreign government, they should be held at fault. Intercepted by Russian Secret Services? Yeah, that is such credible evidence. It would be one thing to be from a third party. I could see if another country intercepted it, but, it lacks credibility being from Russia.
I think I will give up this forum soon. ST12, they will not believe in any news source except from their own news source line cnn and fox. and we all know how corrupt their news source. I do hope, that with Obama in control, everything will run better, at least better than bush.
You don't trust American news sources for things related to America, why should we trust news related to Russia from Russian news sources/intelligence sources? But, I see you missed the point of my post. Let me put it on this one so you don't miss it this time. Or were you just ignoring it because it didn't fit in your narrow viewpoint?
It's best to hear all sides, including yours bfebrian. If you're not posting then people will think the right-wingers point of view here is the only one out there. Not joining in, or opposing their often illogical and uncaring arguments gives them a win they don't deserve! They then come back with 'you stopped because you were wrong' I understand being here takes away from life but what will the world be if it acted on their self-obsessed opinions thinking that's what we all want, because we can't be bothered responding with our side of the argument? It takes many different views to make an informed decision so please keep joining in with your 2 cents where you can.
If you haven't noticed, "America" is kinda pre-occupied right now with problems that are hitting a little closer to home. I have a vague recollection of the DP forum discussion(s) when the skirmishes began and it seemed at the time that it was likely that Georgia was culpable in instigating/provoking a Russian military response, but it was not clear (to me) if Georgia had really overstepped it's bounds/rights with regards to its claim on the territory. The Russian military response, however, clearly did (IMO).
Exactly Bernard. It's just more anti american crap. Spun to try to show Russia's innocence. Now, the US is not completely innocent in everything they do. But, please, use common sense. When you can get a completely unbiased 3rd party to produce evidence, you might have an ounce of believability. This forum uses a US IP Address, you all better stop using it, or the great satan will come and get you throught the internet. We will take all your money and oil and only spread our own selfish beliefs. We will destroy everything in our path to be the supreme and only country in the world!!!
Yeah, that is it ST12, you figured me out completely. When I was investigating federal drug felony's (not long ago) I would be completely unbiased and not make any assumptions until the whole investigation was done. Why? Becasue I did not want to put an honest man in jail. No matter how much pressure came down to get evidence against a guy, if I found something that cleared him, he was no longer a subject and it became unfounded against him and I'd start trying to figure out who really did it. All I am saying here, is why should I trust an obviously biased source? Like I said, produce an unbiased 3rd party source, and I shall be more open to believing it. I have an open mind, and if it really happened the way you say it did, well, that is just not a very happy day to be Georgia. But, I think attacking a country that is asserting their soverign rights to control their soverign territory goes against all that. I guess you keep missing that don't you? Just like an American liberal/Democrat. Ignore facts, ignore things that go against your perfect little idea, and spit propaganda. Great job. A soverign country has the right to protect and maintain law an order in a territory that belongs to that soverign country. They did not ask for Russia to come invade them. THat was Russia's choice. They invaded a soverign government and are now trying to produce "facts" about their reasoning. The fact remains they invaded a soverign nation and got chastised for it. They are trying to pop smoke as a distraction from the core fact.