Terrorism started first by Zionists. And it is a terror to hold ppls in a open air prison. You dont know what does it mean , because you don't feel it .
try better next time. And here is a tip: people might take your seriously if your posts make at least some sense
Oh please, pull the other one. I don't support Hamas you silly boy, nor am I anti-semitic. It may be worth noting that most jews (Ashkenazi) aren't truly semitic, but that's another story. Hamas are scum for their tactics, but so is the Israeli military for theirs. I don't take sides, I just post facts. To call my post propaganda is incredibly childish. Is the prime minister of Israel spreading propaganda because he claims his own country established and funded Hamas? Take your politically-correct views somewhere else.
Let's see what Muhammad would do! Would Muhammad Advocate suicide attacks? YES! SO don't you even dare to say that Israel and the Zionist movement cause the terror, and see what do you believe in, almost blind.
First off, not politically-correct views. They are common sense views. But, it isn't as common as the name implies I see. Second, not a boy, I'm a man, and have been for quite some time now. Before you resort to calling people names, think things through. Your insults don't float with me either. They do nothing to strengthen your position. When you get hit by Hamas the way they do daily, you end up having to resort to playing dirty the way Hamas does. Shit happens. But, it is the only thing they will ever understand. At least Israel doesn't sign cease fires just to re-arm and try again. And your posts are very much propaganda.
Ziya, your post makes absolutely no sense. It is not terror to hold people in an open air prison (I'm assuming you mean one with no real walls). Heck, the US does it in Arizona, the sheriff there even makes the inmates live in tents, wear pink prison garb, and actually work. There is nothing to understand. Your post doesn't make any sense, nor help anyone understand anything.
It has nothing to do with free speech. It's about denying a terrorist-supporter entry into Canada. As a canadian I am happy our country keeps people like him out.
Seeing as though the person you're talking about is a British MP it may be fair to say the UK has 'failed' you already. Look, the fact of the matter is that these people are ridiculous, let them ridicule themselves in public - don't force them underground and don't give them the enjoyment of being political martyrs. Free speech is a right that must be protected and should only be alienated when the effect of what will be spoken is going to cause violence
And you don't think what he is going to say is going to cause violence? You are naive. Sorry, but, he wouldn't get in the US either. I don't see any country to allow an enemy into the country that isn't already a citizen. It makes absolutely no sense, and is quite treasonous. You keep your liberal emotional attitude and beliefs that he should be allowed in because of freedom of speach, and we'll keep our common sense, why should he be granted access, beliefs. It is Canada's Right as a Soverign Country to decide who it allows into their country. While we're at it, I guess we should allow Iranian Diplomats to open an Embassy in the US too. How about just allowing Al-Queda, Hamas, and the Taliban have their own embassy's as well. This way, they can have their freedom of speach everywhere. You know, just so long as they don't incite violence. What do you think all of their campaigns have in common? VIOLENCE.
Hostlonestar, I think you misunderstood my point. I don't have a problem with Hamas's classification as a terrorist organisation, or Galloway being barred from a given country, as long as the people of that country agree. The news report I watched claimed that this was all instigated after a small, minority group wanted this decision. The minority shouldn't dictate to the majority.
AHHHHHH, ok ok, I totally did misunderstand you then. I agree, you know what, if the majority get a petition and give it to the Canadian government, the government has a DUTY to abide with the majority. The US has it in our Constitution that we can petition the governmnet for change. I personally am against it, and think it treasounous for the government to do so though. However, if the majority said ok, then, I would go along with it, kicking and screaming every step of the way. I would make my voice heard, as I always do. Like I've said before, I'm in regular contact with the senator's of my state expressing my opinion of things, and, generally, they vote in line with my views, so I am not totally dissatisfied with them. However, my view on this particular subject won't change.
Freedom of speech is something that the Arab states just don't know.Israel is the only country in the extended ME which has 100% freedom of speech, so stop saying that Israel is a dictatorship. I can't understand you people - why do you allow him say this? he's not just Pro Palestinian.A, he is Pro Hamas! Go Canada.
Don't lie Uploas. We all know how ridiculously backward Islamic law is, but Israel is far from allowing "100% freedom of speech", and you know it. For example, if I were to express the opinion that I believe six million Jews were not exterminated by the Nazis in gas chambers, what do you think would happen? I'd be imprisoned. How could you forget that? Maybe you don't think that's a freedom of speech issue either? Like I mentioned before in this thread, a small minority are regulating freedom of speech in Canada, Austria, Germany, Australia and other countries, where if you open your mouth to express a certain opinion, you'd be incarcerated - the same people petitioned for Galloway to be refused entry, doesn't anyone else find that interesting?
Are Jews not allowed to petition their governments? Why do you cast Jews differently then every other group who wants the government to act a certain way. It is clear what motivates your thinking on these issues.
Oh here we go... Am I not allowed to describe people? The minority who petitioned WERE Jewish. Maybe defining people like that doesn't sit with your PC views, but it's human nature to refer to people by labelled groups as it's easier to understand. Listen, them being Jewish is beside the point: a minority lobbyist group petitioned. That's it. End of. It is not right that their wishes were granted, especially when the news report makes no other reference to other groups or individuals having a problem. Twist it any way you want but facts are facts. To you it may be clear what my 'motivations' are, but all you're doing is showing how foolishly blinded by political-correctness you are. I bet you're an avid supporter of positive-discrimination too. It's convenient how you skirt around my other points; the main points. You don't want to address the inane repression of freedom of speech or how a lobbyist minority group can dictate an entire nation's (nations in fact) governmental policies.
I don't get what your panties are all in a twist about. A group petitioned their government. Happens every day by thousands of groups. In this particular instance the government's actions were what one group sought. So what? The Hamas supporters were petitioning the other way, they lost. It happens all the time. You are upset because the government happened to agree that Hamas supporters are not welcome in their country. You are trying to make this about Jews or government catering to Jews. It is neither. It just so happens that in this case the government acted in the way some Jews wanted them to act. Get over it. As for your absurd conclusions that Jews made the government decide something. Many people happen to agree that Hamas supporting terrorists are not welcome in their country - does that make them all pawns to the Jews? Of course not. Don't let a little thing like logic stand in the way of your ignorance (you haven't yet!) Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc
I'm efforts are wasted here, I'll try one last time: A democratic government should not base decisions on a minority group for it does not represent the majority, especially considering the group is lobbyist and partisan. This group used campaign contributions to sway the decision further. Simple enough for you? [/quote]The Hamas supporters were petitioning the other way, they lost. It happens all the time. You are upset because the government happened to agree that Hamas supporters are not welcome in their country. [/quote] You are wrong. I'm not upset about anything, I just, unlike you, care for liberty and the pursuit of justice and democracy. Then again, I suppose I shouldn't expect much more from a Californian Be careful, you're trying, and failing, to put words in my mouth. These are similar desperate tactics used by those who have no other means of defending weak logic or arguments. I am not 'making anything out' of the sort. You're creating racial issues when there really are none, it's pathetic. I stated previously that my reference to Jews is nothing more than a description for ease of understanding. It's people like you who create the divide by acknowledging possible differences between peoples, so grow up missy and "get over" your own prejudices first before telling others to. Wow, you really don't read before posting, do you! Let me break it down for you: Jews inhabit the majority of Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc[/QUOTE]
It is hard to get through your gibberish. Please show us any proof you have that the decision was bought and paid for other than pulling that accusation out of your ass. All you have posted is your rank speculation and accusation based on your on bigoted little mind. Did it every occur to you that the Canadian government came to the decision because it is and was the right decision for Canada? You sounds like the idiots here who think the US supports Israel because of pressure (or claims that the Jews run everything) rather than the simple fact it is in our best interest as Americans to do so.
Ah dear, I think I'll leave it here. Haha, who's getting their "panties in a twist now" Your petty quoting of the most minor points shows how retarded you are. Sit back down in front of the television and gather more 'intelligence'. You simply refuse to read! How can anyone ever prove anything when you simply refuse to read!? Perhaps my words wouldn't seem "drivel", my dear, if you could actually read Look at the facts: Lobbyist minority (and I mean that in the most literal sense of the word you simpleton), named the Jewish defence league, desires are met over all others, the god damn same group have their way with freedom of speech laws in thirteen countries. Here's a hint for you: You see those things above? They're quotations. So don't try and blame me for anti-semitism or the like, which you have done so far. It looks like Hamas aren't the only extremists/terrorists. Get the picture yet? Maybe I should spell it out for you: It seems the Canadian government are picky when it comes to which extremist lobbyists they listen to. How could this group influence the government when others cannot. Hmm.. What the hell does the Canadian government think it's doing? Shouldn't it be non-partisan? Is this enough for you? Maybe now you see that this favouritism is merely more than just doing what's in Canada's "best interests"? Then again, I'm wasting my time, as the facts and information posted falls on deaf ears, for all you can do is and cry "bigot!" - the sign of someone with incredibly weak morals and arguments. When you grow up enough to transcend claiming false racism, take a look at the group and its actions itself - not the ethnicity of it. The fact that you believe America's support for Israel is in its best interests really says it all. I didn't think many of you lot could use the internet! AL QAEDA! AL QAEDA! The evil, evil terrorists are everywhere! I smell a supporter of Kahanism Browntwn