I want everyone at Digital Point to know I just got ripped off by Joe Tamargo, who is also known as Sundaybrew. I wrote articles for him last Friday, and he delayed payment for three days. He gave me another assignment this week, which I started on monday, but couldn't finish because I suddenly had to move out of my old office into a new one, as well as disconnect my DSL. Finally, on Friday when I finish the articles and email them to them, I get an email from him AFTER I send the articles telling me he doesn't want them because I took to long. As I said in the previous paragraph, I haven't been able to get work done this week because I needed to switch offices. I had to threaten him just to get a response from him, and he has ignored my emails. The bottom line is that I finished the articles, and I wasted time working on a project that he isn't going to pay for. I will post our emails here so you can read just how many times I had to email him in order to get a response. My itrader points speak for themselves. I've never ripped anyone off and I've done a good job: I told you on the last email that I didnt want them, I am tired of your threats, I have heard enough, You threatened me last time with this and I wont stand for it , I havnet even opened the zip, I email you and said That I couldnt wait and was going to hire someone else, and I did before you sent me the articles, I did not rip you off, If you leave me negative feedback , I will do the same and then start a post with the transsripts from this email showing everyone on the forum how you like to bully people around I assume , you will just learn better biz practices and learn to deal with people in the right manner Have a great day, I have not opned the zip you forced upon me or nor I will Joe On 7/8/06, Stephen Palmer <transduction@mangalocity.com> wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:43:30 -0400, "Joe Tamargo" wrote: No thanx man, You left me hanging for a week, Thats just bad biz No need, I will find someone else Thanx On 7/7/06, Stephen Palmer <transduction@mangalocity.com> wrote: On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 23:06:35 -0400, "Joe Tamargo" wrote: Ok, Please leve me feedback on DP as I alreadt did for you , Thanx for the email Joe On 7/3/06, Stephen Palmer <transduction@mangalocity.com> wrote: On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 20:39:48 -0400, "Joe Tamargo" wrote: Hi Steve, No Problem, There are alot of scammers, I know, I own several hundred websites I could use the following 6 articles about ringtones, 2 articles about picking the perfect pet name 2 articles about picking the perfect baby name Thank you for all the great work so far, I look forward to the next batch Btw, I have 376 sites so if your interested I could have you write a bunch Joe On 7/2/06, Stephen Palmer <transduction@mangalocity.com> wrote: On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 17:26:45 -0400, "Joe Tamargo" wrote: Hello Stephen, How are you, I responded to the first email, I thought it would be easyier if I just paid for both at once , I just > > > > > > > > go the NO, email from you when I woke up > > just > > > > > now, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > am in a > > > > > > > > different tome zone as you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as not paying I will pay now, my > god > > > > relax, > > > > > > > LOOK > > > > > > > > at my feedback > > > > > > > > on DP its awesome , I work with many > people > > on > > > > > these > > > > > > > > boards never have > > > > > > > > not paid one person, sometimes some people > > > like > > > > to > > > > > > get > > > > > > > > paid all at > > > > > > > > once, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry if you felt it took a while to > > > > > respond, I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > a busy guy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Either way let me get the payment out, I > am > > > > sorry > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > the miscommucation, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you are interested in those ring tones > > > > > acrticles > > > > > > > > please let me know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please leave me feedback on DP when you > > > receive > > > > > > > > payment, and I will do the same > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a GREAT holiday weekend! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/2/06, Stephen Palmer > > > > > > > > <transduction@mangalocity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 17:12:34 -0400, "Joe > > > > Tamargo" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just woke up, I worked all nite I > will > > > > have > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > payment sent to you > > > > > > > > > > by 7pm est time > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can have those other articles > > done > > > , > > > > I > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > > pay > > > > > > > > > > you for both tonite , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/1/06, Stephen Palmer > > > > > > > > > > <transduction@mangalocity.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:19:28 -0400, > > "Joe > > > > > > > Tamargo" > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the nice work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will send the paypal tommorrw > > > > afternoon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you available for more work? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so I would like 10 articles on > > > > > ringtones > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/30/06, Stephen Palmer > > > > > > > > > > > > <transduction@mangalocity.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the ten articles you > > > > requested > > > > > on > > > > > > > > solar > > > > > > > > > > > > > energy. They are written in .doc > > > > format, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > opened in Word Pad. If you have > > any > > > > > > > problems, > > > > > > > > > > please > > > > > > > > > > > > > email me. My paypal id is > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In one of the articles I write > > about > > > > how > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > build > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > solar energy generator for less > > then > > > > > $500. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > 600 words, but there is no > > > additional > > > > > > > charge. > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > helpful to create an animation > > with > > > > this > > > > > > > > article > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > > > can show your readers step by > step > > > how > > > > > to > > > > > > > > build > > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested in doing the ring > tone > > > > > > articles. > > > > > > > > Have > > > > > > > > > > > you sent the payment for the solar > > > energy > > > > > > > > articles? > > > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > > is 2 p.m. my time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is almost 12 P.M my time and I still > > > > haven't > > > > > > > heard > > > > > > > > > from you. If I don't see the payment by > > the > > > > end > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > day, I'm sending you a negative itrader > > > point > > > > > and > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > going to ruin your rep at Digital Point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You've made promises to pay me twice, > and > > > > you've > > > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > > > both times. Now you're not even > answering > > my > > > > > > > emails. I > > > > > > > > > sent you the articles almost 2 days ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apologize if I came across as rude in my > > last > > > > > email, > > > > > > > but I've been ripped off before, and there > is > > > > > another > > > > > > > guy at Digital Point who hasn't answered my > > > email > > > > at > > > > > > > all, and I sent him the articles on Friday. > > This > > > > is > > > > > > why > > > > > > > I'm a bit uneasey. In any event, I'm > > interested > > > in > > > > > > > writing the ring tone articles. I should be > > able > > > > to > > > > > > > complete them tomorrow. How many did you > need? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > > > > > I'm over halfway finised with your articles, but > > I'm > > > > > going to head home early. I'm pretty exhausted > > after > > > > > last week. I will finish them tomorrow. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > Just wanted to email you and let you know I'm going > to > > > finish the articles you requested this week and send > > > them to you. It has been a rough week, and I'm just > > > getting situated in a new office. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > Joe, > > If you don't answer my email by the end of today, I'm > going to have to assume you've ripped me off and I will > send you a negative itrader. The articles are > completed, and I'm waiting to receive payment. > > Thanks, > > Stephen > Notice the number of times I emailed him asking for payment. If you wrote articles for someone, would you want to wait three days in order to get paid? I went to finish them on tuesday, but had to disconnect my internet service and change offices. I've never dealt with someone at digital point that is so impatient.
he talks about you here - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=105550#post1091864 seems its all confusing for me now :-|
I'll vouch for Tesla's way that he does business. He's writing a few articles for me, and has already done several projects in the past. He does a great job for article writing, just completed a 10,000 word project for me. Good luck Tesla.
As far as I know joe/sundaybrew, he is a great guy to deal with I haven't have had any problems whatsoever with him. And yes, incase you were having net problems, moving out to new office, you must inform him right? Is a cybercafe that far from your house? This is business dude, if you have not informed him that you are off for a week, its entirely your mistake and not his.
I guess its time for me to respond, I have 26 positive feedbacks EVEN one from telsa saying " Joe is a Great Customer" Then after a delay becuase of some internet connection he had , or a new office , I tell him never mind - He responds a day later and says pay me or I will ruin you , WHICH he is trying to do with this thread alone using my last name and all which is fine because I have nothing to hide, MY 26 IMPECCABLE feedbacks before this should tell the public how I do bizness, Thank you Joe Tamargo Thanx Humm
Just remember one of DP's posting guidelines: Personal attacks against people, or sites will not be tolerated. If you have an issue with someone or their site, take it up with them personally.
Agreed, that is why I started " I need advice thread " YET he started this thread using my last name and all? I never mentioned names in my thread or anything How come the mods are letting this thread attack me in this thread EVEN with my last name?
I agree, you've conducted yourself well, I wasn't directing that post at you. Also, Tesla has already left red iTrader rep, while sundaybrew has refrained from doing so.
Ok - I wasnt sure , I mean I dont care that my last name is here, I have nothing to hide, I just think that telsa is showing any professionalism he even stated in the opening paragraph that ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I want everyone at Digital Point to know I just got ripped off by Joe Tamargo, who is also known as Sundaybrew. I wrote articles for him last Friday, and he delayed payment for three days. He gave me another assignment this week, which I started on monday, but couldn't finish because I suddenly had to move out of my old office into a new one, as well as disconnect my DSL. Finally, on Friday when I finish the articles and email them to them, I get an email from him AFTER I send the articles telling me he doesn't want them because I took to long. As I said in the previous paragraph, I haven't been able to get work done this week because I needed to switch offices. I had to threaten him just to get a response from him, and he has ignored my emails. And he is talking about me delaying and not responding to him>? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As you can see by his own admission he was the one that delayed all the work.............I dont get it ? And as far as a scammer (besides my 26 positives) I even donated over $70 to Shawns server.... as in this thread...........I think my name and actions stand for themseleves http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=1079936&postcount=19
Sundaybrew, you delayed payments last saturday. You said you would pay me last saturday, and you didn't. I emailed you about it, and you emailed me saying you were tired and would pay me at 7 p.m. I waited and still no payment at 7 p.m...it is easy to see why I would get annoyed. You finally paid me on sunday, but that was not the day you promised. As you can see, your decison to delay payments annoyed me, just as my decision to delay the completion of your articles until friday annoyed you. The difference between the situation is that I did my part, and was stuck in a situation that was unexpected. Writing articles is a difficult business. It is hard work, and when I finish a job, I'd like to be paid within a reasonable period of time. Maybe I was wrong for using your last name, but I worked for 3 hours on those articles and I didn't receive anything for it. I also recall emailing you and everyone else last week to let you all know there would be a delay. Everyone else I work with didn't have a problem with their articles being delayed because I needed to move in a new office. I have finished many of their projects, and they are happy about it. $50 really isn't that big of a deal, but it is the principle behind it. Do you think I want to come into a message board and start a thread about this?
Since I guess you would like everyone to know my first and last name, I might as well let them see who I am as well, I wish you well in your writing biz. Here is another Pic as well, And for those who are lot more interested who I am , Here is some google results http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGGL_enUS176&q=joe+tamargo+tattoo Thanx Joe Just wondering If a mod or owner will warn or ban him for this personal attack?
Telsa has written over 50 articles for me and all has been good. Usually he gets them done at an insanely fast pace. Sometimes he emails me and says "hey, I'm running behind, it's going to take an extra day or two" Just saying I have dealt with him a ton of times(more than anyone else here) and he always conducts himself in a good way. =x I dont even know if telsa knows who I am because we always talk via Email. Incase youre wondering who I am telsa, it's b34nzzzz [at] gmail lol
Regardless the forums rules are the forum rules . NO PERSONAL ATTACKS and that is what this is HE EVEN posted my last name................ This is a personal attack using my last name and trying to ruin me, Please mods respond on this issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All I can say is basically, tesla, you should have informed him you were going to be unable to do the work for whatever days. Did he make a deposit? It doesn't seem like it from what I read so basically he had the right to back out. He was unable to wait, instead why not try selling the articles to someone else who could use them.
I didn't break any of the forum rules. That is why the mods haven't done anything. I never attacked your website, and I never attacked you personally. However, I'm making it known that I did work I didn't get paid for. What is wrong with that? I've seen it happen here before. Someone starts a thread saying they didn't get paid by someone for work they did. I'm not lying. That is exactly what happen. That is not a bad idea.
You seem to avoide a question although its been asked three times. Did you inform him that you are moving your office so finishing up articles would take more time than expected/requested/given. In your mails to him, I am not able to find it. So if you didnt inform him then its obviously your fault. Anyway I think this is nothing to discuss in public, you both had given iTraders to each other, so deal it personaly and take it to the PMs.
I also have a payment pending from sundaybrew but I'm sure he will pay on time as he seems a nice guy