I'm just curious, one thing i have noticed since joining the DP forums a few weeks back is people seem to be so gullible. I have been an internet marketer for several years, and obviously people being "naive" is something most marketers exploit however within my circle of friends yes we do use certain triggers and tactics to increase sales.. BUT we always strive to over deliver and ensure the customer gets far more value than what they paid. Here on the DP forums i constantly see: I could go on and on but you get the idea. It seems to be the more outrageous the claims, the more "copies" that get sold and the sad thing is you see the same people buying these same methods again and again.. Why? Because the methods are not worth the digital paper they are written on, otherwise they wouldn't need to buy another method. Do these people here seriously believe they will pay $6 and earn $80,000 working 15 hours per week? My friend and i were discussing on IM why DP especially is like this, so we decided to make a little social experiment. He listed a method on here, with a totally outrageous claim and the method quite really trivial, it could of been condensed to 5 or 6 bullet points and if he sold it anywhere else he would of been the laughing stock of the day. You guessed it, the thing sold like hot cakes and people went Wow. I listed a product, almost 100 pages packed with no BS tricks, methods and tactics that veteran marketers take years to figure anything similar. These methods have massive potential, but the difference? I made no BS outrageous earnings claims. You guessed it, a couple of sales. So why do you think people, especially members of DP are so gullible?
A lot of newbies have been around lately and I think that's the reason. Their are a lot of people who have just started getting into this whole webmaster thing and a lot of the information provided here is new to them, but I do agree that if it wasn't for these items DP would be a much quieter place with a lot more quality content.
I guess common sense isn't that common everywhere. Hopefully the new members learn their lessions at not too great a price. When something is too good to be true, it isn't.
Thanks for your input Eminem and Wisdom tool, i guess you could be right with regards to having many people new to the internet. I'm not too sure of the demographics or experience here, but after browsing around some of the sections like Google and Adsense some of the questions/comments point to many having little experience. So i guess people really "do" believe they will make $80,000 by spending $6 on an eBook. It's sad really, especially seeing people buy 6,7 or more of these same types of products and not learn.
I was always wondering this too That forum sure is filled with garbage-sounding ebooks (no offense anyone who's written one there) Did whatever method your friend was selling actually work for the results he advertised? For things without the outrageous claims, try to work on getting testimonials instead from people they might recognize. It's a harder route, but if you build up trust yours can sell like hotcakes too & keep selling more as buyers tell others about it
Yeah it's odd, if some of these products were pushed in places i normally frequent or to my normal customers/associates they not only wouldn't sell but our reputations would be completely ruined. However here, the more ridiculous the claim the more people rush to buy it. Oh yeah, the method he sold did work and it was actually a watered down and modified method from one of the ones in my book. Except my book had almost 100 pages with dozens of methods, actually it took one of the guys who reviewed it 3 hours to read it and it blew him away. Yes i realize testimonials etc increase sales, i could of got some common names in the industry to knock up some testimonials for me however we didn't list the stuff because we needed sales/money and didn't care if we sold zero copies it was somewhat of an experiment.
I think that's because the newbies are all anxious wats on the book and will it really make them that amount.
Yeah true, the strange thing is they just don't seem to learn. I see the same people buying the latest "Make $5k in 30 Minutes for $7" type products over and over again. I'm a newbie in say Forex Trading, but if i get stung doing XYZ i go whoa i won't do that again. No it seems not, although it is reassuring to see members who have been here for years seeing the same things i am as a new person to the site. I absolutely hate exploiting clueless people, i refuse to do it but a savvy internet marketer could retire just selling "junk" here which is pretty disturbing.
I second that point. If I were earning $10k a day, I would neve sell that method over to any one in first place, and secondly, not fr $5 et al!
Here's something that may also come into play: Do those scammy-sounding offers come with resell rights? Perhaps the interest is less in pursuing the tactics and more in being able to resell a cheap product to a few people (very quickly earning back what you paid and more, even if not $80k). Personally I can't stand dishonest marketing, but people will do anything for money (especially when the economy sucks).
It's because people are lazy and want an easy fix. They want to believe they can make $2000 an hour with 30 minutes of work a day.
People buy into outrageous claims and dreams. It's sad but true. Other people just basically see there is a need for products like these and sell it to the gullible. Personally I have assimilated thousands of products over the years, but have hardly ever done or used any of it. I found that a lot of materials are the same stuff circulating the internet. I cannot even begin with how many famous gurus bring out high priced products and some points are worth considering and may be new, but the rest is exactly the same information you can find anywhere. It's just written in a different tone, but the message is the same. Far from it, most people make a living from it. I guess that is how the world revolves here on DP. I have several websites and the only time I find things useful is when I would like to outsource some work that I do not have time for. At some point I may promote something, but it will be something that I find useful and know others would. No point in selling fake dreams. However, I can sell real dreams.
Already discussed before. DP was good around < 2006 but then the army of noobs came.. with that plenty of $$ to the site owner. None of the gurus lurk in here anymore.. I only visit now for outsource work.
- lazy people - do not want to learn more about the cheats on the Internet (especially now, during the financial crisis) - want to make money easily but they do not know that there's no such thing like "10000000000$ in 3 minutes" and they rise at the bait. - they think that eveyone here is 1000000% reliable and is not a cheater Let's hope that the members here will write their homework for the next time and won't be cheated so often. And let's hope that there will be less offers like "See how i made 45545 trillion dollars in 0.000000000001 seconds!". Unfortunately these sh**s will never stop to appear in the forum.
Who cares ? It's not possible to earn 1000$ in 10 minutes just by reading 1 e-book ! If you understand this, you should not be so curious why they are selling these kind of e-books ( they don't know how to make even 10$ ).
Well jhmattern, you "almost" completely nailed it except for one thing. No the products in question do not come with resale rights but things like that don't seem to matter. A PM that got back to me after selling just 2 copies: It seems the motis operandi is buy the product, or better yet bludge a free review copy to avoid the outlay, then PM anyone that comments in the sales thread showing interest in purchasing the item offering it substantially cheaper. You not only make your investment back, but make money regardless if the method works or not. So the author spends 200 hours creating the product and makes the equivalent of 50c an hour, and the buyer makes $20 an hour sending 2 PM's. Note the screen shot, you don't even need to be able to spell the word "ebbok" let alone write one to do this method. Thanks to the people who alerted me to my stuff getting handed around like free candy, and to anyone thinking of selling something genuine here instead of the usual BS all i can suggest is DON'T. Maybe i should write an eBook,
I always prefer to stay away from the marketing pages or websites which always start with the testimonials and lots of text on that one single page. And I don't know that why these people use all such marketing tactics to sell something which is never gonna work and it really never works. Sad, but newbies are the primary victims. They think that by buying these stuff's they will be able to make money. Once I came across a ad which mentioned data entry jobs. I thought to give it a try just to see that what data entry job the guy is offering. His website asked to make a payment of $90 to gain access to the methods. But before I proceeded to make the payment, I clearly read the refund policy and made the payment. And this how it works? 1. Sign up with clickbank.com 2. Sign up with adwords.com 3. Choose a program at clickbank.com and create a new ad at adwords. 4. People will click on the ads and purchase the product. 5. You will get the commission. Since I was already aware of this concept, the 1st thing I did was to have my $90 back as per his money back guarantee. And I am afraid that how many people out there might have spent so much money only to realise that it never works. Its really a sick side of the internet.
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