Does DMOZ genuinly help your search engine ranking

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by webdevuk, Mar 9, 2009.

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    Does anyone know if the dmoz directory still helps your SE ranking.

    and is it worth the effort you have to put in to get listed ?

    Tom
     
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    Not sure about the results, but its easy to submit to ODP, just go to the category that your site fits best and press the submit a site button and enter the details. You can do nothing more so then go and forget, because it can take from a couple of days to several years. Easy.
     
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    What effort?? You suggest it and forget it..

    What it does give you is a lot of links from sites that use the DMOZ list to fill their own directories..
     
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    right , I meant effort as i trying my very best to get listed , e.g reapplying every 4 weeks , trying to contact the editors , or even paying seo companys for help.

    Thanks for your views
     
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    You just respect the dmoz rules and submit your website. The final decision will be given by the dmoz editor. Yes its true, approved in dmoz means to genuine directory links : 1st from dmoz and second from google directory.
     
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    If you keep reapplying every 4 weeks you stand a good chance of being banned for life as a spammer. Did you read the guidelines at all? Submit ONCE.

    Trying to contact many editors to try and put your site to the top of the list, would, in my case, put it to the bottom of it. No editor will respond to that and as likely will forget to review that site.

    SEO companies have no more iunput than anyone else. This is where Q pops up and starts bleating about SEO's who are editors can be paid to do work and then, so long as they don't tell you they are doing this as a paid service, can list you. Write a rude word here .......... if you take that seriously.

    Submit ONCE and forget, it can take from a few days to a few years. You can do nothing to speed that up, unless you apply and are accepted to edit the category. This is where Q pops up and says that is what he did, oh perhaps not. Do anything else you like to promote your site, but at DMOZ you have done all you can with one submission (2 if you site has a base, say a shop or some such, then you can offer it tothe localiuty in regional too).

    At the present time you seem to be doing well to not get it listed at all.
     
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    Nobody can say it does or it doesn't. For certain keywords top results are listed in Dmoz. I personally consider it is worth to submit your website but don't sweat it, if you get listed great if you don't just keep on with your SEO. Probably google doesn't give the same importance to it as it used to but I personally believe it is still a great link to have.
     
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    It definitely doesn't if you never get listed :D Submitting to DMOZ is just a waste of time these days
     
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    It usually takes much longer for us to review, sometimes place correctly, title, describe and either accept a site or reject a site than it does for anyone to submit one. But we have so many submissions we don't mind if you think it is so much a waste of your time that you don't bother. Does us a favour really.
     
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    I just can't get why people get so freaked out if they are not listed in dmoz. It's not a waste of time unless you spend days annoying editors and wasting your effort which could have been used for worthwhile things.
     
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    Seriously? I submitted my stite two years ago and I'm still to recieve a response! I should have done you that favour rather than bother :cool:
     
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    After a year, I was finally added to dmoz today. :) Woooot
     
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    If it were up to me I would turn submissions off and then we would go mining for our sites. We are supposed to have some knowledge/interest in the categories we edit and should have some knowledge about what is available.

    DMOZ is happy for people to make suggestions by submitting, but that is all that they are, suggestions and we do not undertake to review them in any timeframe. Some editors rarely view submissions others try and ensure that they keep on top of suggestions, it is up to the editor, no one is compelled to do either.

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    We don't respond to submitted sites, they either get listed or rejected. Most sites sit in a Q until an editor decides they want to sort that Q out. If your site is guideline compliant then it is in a Q, if it was not guideline compliant then it either sits in a Q and will be rejected or it has already been rejected, but we don't do site checks.
     
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    How on earth can you say that AFTER you have said this?

    I'd hide behind an anonymous name myself with an attitude like that. It's despicable that sooooo many editors feel that way. It's a shame that the Staff that are over "Audience Growth" even allow such a mentality to be within so many editors.

    I seriously hope that such a mindset is put out with the trash when they finally get around to DMOZ2.0.

    Maybe then DMOZ will once again be a DIRECTORY rather then a hobby.
     
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    Or even list your own site and run.

    DMOZ is happy for submissions, but I would prefer it not to have them. Strange Q when I speak up for the DMOZ line you complain, when I argue with the DMOZ line you complain.

    When DMOZ has always used the majority of its editors as volunteers who pursue their hobby, how can it ever have been anything other. I don't know about the other editors on here but I have been editing for going on 9 years, that's pretty much the life of the directory.
     
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    You know why I left, and it's been asked that it not get brought up. It had NOTHING to do with listing my site and you know it! Stop bending the truth, it's making you look bad... well, not you, your false name here.

    You are not speaking up for the ODP in this case though. Besides, it's on a case by case basis. Something about the ODP I really like, some I do not like. I defend the parts I like, and speak up against the things I disagree with. You on the other hand have often shown yourself to be completely hypocritical...

    It was founded on the basis of promoting the founders websites. That is why the founders site has tens of thousands of listings. So if it was founded on promoting the editors sites, then how could it ever be anything other?
     
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    Had you thought of looking at the time line? Wikipedia shows that ODP was created in 1998. topix.net wasn't registered until 2002 - long after skrenta had sold ODP to Netscape in late 1998.
     
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    Well, I guess I stand corrected. It was founded on good faith, even by it's founders :D Thanks for pointing that out. I guess the corruption started sometime after that then....

    Skrenta, a founding member, still has tens of thousands of listings, many of which do not fit within the guidelines of the ODP and for the better part NONE of them added by a HUMAN hand within the largest human edited directory.
     
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    The automated Topix listings were the result of an agreement between Topix and DMOZ's owners. No active volunteer editor was involved and indeed there was an outcry at the time, with a number of editors leaving over it. ..but I'm sure I've told you all this previously.

    Since no active editors were involved, I'm not sure how the Topix incident proves anything about anything editorial.
     
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    Its funny to me that all of the above argument has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the original question posted in the thread.... does having your site listed in DMOZ help your search engine ranking... THAT is the subject of this thread, and my answer is NO it does not affect it. Maybe 5 years ago, but not anymore.
     
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