Should abortion be allowed to women?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by cpvr, Mar 26, 2006.

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Should abortion be allowed?

  1. yes

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  2. no

    50 vote(s)
    34.2%
  1. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #261
    I think you'll find it was you that trivialised the subject by comparing it to robbery. You'll never understand the issue while looking at it from such a polarised viewpoint. There are a lot more issues to consider but you can't seem to grasp that.

    That's completely incorrect. A true democracy protects the rights of the minority. I suggest you read up on the principals of democacy.

    Okay, what about another viewpoint, should abortion be allowed if the woman was likely to die during childbirth?
     
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    ferret77 Heretic

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    #262
    People who are against the death penalty and pro-choice because

    1) embryos arn't PEOPLE they are a cluster of cells

    2) pro-choice doesn't mean "yippy lets go have an abortion party" it means they think people should have the right to "chose". See pro "choice" they are for the right to choose. They are not pro-abortion.

    I know it seems pretty obvious to most thinking people but I try to simplify it for Gtech.
     
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    #263
    So what is the percentage of women, who after the abortation get severely depressed about the decision they have made and wished someone had stopped them from doing so out of ignorance?
     
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    #266
    Yes, absolutely. It should be allowed. However, I would agree to some restrictions.

    Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and there are rapes that cause unwanted pregnancies. Also, some women, due to medical or the way they were born, may not be able to carry a pregnancy until the end, some may not be able to survive a birth (I am not an expert, I have heard a lot of things can happen).

    I would agree to some restrictions as in not allow woman to have an abortion for any stupid reason like "i have two boys already and I don't want another one, i want a girl". The goverment should offer programs and help women with any help that they can offer in order to help woman not resort to an abortion.
     
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  7. DeniseJ

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    #267
    First of all, towards all the comments made about partial-birth abortions that is another issue entirely. If I were to have an abortion, I would not have a partial-birth one. However (and this is purely based on speculation,) I doubt that partial-birth abortions are extremely common, because as far as I know they are mostly illegal.

    It's natural to get depressed after an emotional experience such as an abortion. Women can also become depressed after a baby is born. Ever heard of post partum depression? Yeah, it's real.

    There are many reasons a woman can choose not to have a child. The majority of those I have known personally who have had abortions have done so not because they were irresponsible, but because it was the best choice for all parties concerned.
     
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    #268
    True, but those are depression for different reasons. Depression over the loss, the guilt of having killed your own child, the feeling of "something is supposed to be here and missing". Those are not the same kinds as the ones you would get from a woman who has just given birth and has post partum depressions. A lt of women feel like they're on the backburner when they bring a child into this world, they kinda know what's ahead of them and being a mother is definitely not easy.

    SO post partum and grief over a loss are completely different from one another.

    What is the percentage of women getting depressed over an abortion vs. getting post partum?
     
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    #269
    What difference does a little depression make? on either side ?
     
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    #270
    I think that women getting it done, don't really know what they're getting themselves into.
     
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    #271
    Why is that? Are you smarter than them? Do you know something they don't? :confused:

    Maybe a pregnant teenage girl that's going to give birth in 9 months doesn't really know she's getting herself into...
     
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    #272
    Yes, but it's something I rather not talk about on here. But that's also beside the point. Just look at the site I have posted http://www.hopeafterabortion.com

    It's full of stories by women who thought it was just something they go do ... and then right move on. But the reality of things is that they will have to live with their decision. And many of them have a very hard time doing so.

    I don't think this is all about telling women what they can't do ... it's more about protecting people from making a bad decision that they can't quite evaluate properly. Since they haven't been thru it that is.
     
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    #273
    I must respectfully disagree with you, Blogmaster.

    In my personal opinion, postpartum depression is a lot more damaging to a woman AND her baby than any depression she may feel over an abortion. Women suffering from postpartum depression do not interact with their babies as frequently as they should be, which in turn can affect a child's development. What's more, babies that have mothers suffering from depression can have significant behavioral problems throughout their lives, depending on how severe the depression turns out to be.

    If you take a look at this article, you'll see what I'm talking about:

    Here

    As far as women not knowing what they are getting into when they have an abortion, for the most part I believe that isn't true. I know many women who have researched everything they could get their hands on about abortion, including the emotional risks involved.
     
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    #274
    Just because some women abuse abortion, or are just plain dumb to begin with, doesn't mean the majority of women aren't capable of "evaluating" the decisions and its effects properly.

    The girl I was with, that had an abortion - knew the risks, and was already a mother. If anything, I was the one who had the depression after it happened. It was 5 years ago, and to this day I still talk to her, and to this day, she still has no regret over doing it and neither do I. So I happen to know you're wrong about this "can't evalutate the situation" BS...
     
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    #276
    What you need to look for is the percentage of women that have abortions per year. Then, you can determine if 10% is a significant amount.
     
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    #277
    Have you considered that either decision will lead a percentage of women to have depressions. Probably because it's natural when dealing with a sensetive issue like becoming a mother or not, especially when it hasn't been planned.
     
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    #278
    It's funny that the vast majorty of Pro-Life people posting on here are male :)
     
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    #279
    Male's who probably have never been faced with the decision at that. :rolleyes:
     
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    #280
    Shame really, it would be funny to see if most of them would stand by their principals.
     
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