Kontera updates TOS, publishers beware

The new TOS is found here, and, well, at least to me, points some pretty horrific problems out.

Problem #1: Exclusivity

WTF? This comes dangerously close to saying "you will publish nobody else's ads". Even if they are referring to text links, they can not compete with professional services here such as Amazon, or others who have been delivering text based relevance for longer.

Problem #2: We won't pay you!

Now, I get that they want people to publish things and advertise the hell out of their sites, but that's basically saying they WON'T pay you for the month IF you don't make at least $5 in clicks (which can be difficult to do with their program).


Now I'm not sure how much of this existed previously, but this really stands out as a BAD BAD move by Kontera, and a complete and total lack of respect for their publishers.

Just a quick heads up that things had changed, and it doesn't look like it's for the better!

 

They are retarts they are just asking to get shoot!

 

I agree with Usmanzali, his say is that of a wise man.

Kontera is basically asking the publishers to gtfo. Are the people running Kontera retards or monkeys? Even monkeys could deliver a better TOS.

This is absolute BS! I have taken Kontera off of all my sites and I hope many more shall follow in my footsteps.

 

I am following in your footsteps as well!

 

I actually began the process of eliminating kontera a few months back (October of last year), when I became completely frustrated with their lack of reporting options. I mean, any company that doesn't let you select data from custom ranges is obviously trying to hide something.

Case in point:
I signed up with Kontera in mid-late '06-07 (I forget exactly when).
The earliest report date that I could pull up? October of last year. Everything else is gone, unselectable, history.

Sure, it's not ideal for them to have a publisher like me who doesn't perform extravagantly, but it's also costing them a good # of impressions monthly.

The replacement (infolinks) ran 60k impressions last month (not a ton, but it's not small numbers either), and performs MUCH better than kontera would dream to do.

 

InfoLink will soon become the leader as the word spreads! As more and more kontera publishers discover the hidden $$$ from infolinks they are leaving Kontera!

 

What the hell are you guys complaining about? These are the same regulations that were in the Kontera TOS before. Nothing changed.

I don’t mean to offend anyone but we all need to calm down and understand things more deeply before we splash them all over digitalpoint.
All they mean by exclusivity is that you can’t use another in text service on the same website. It doesn’t mean you can’t place other ads.

 

If this is the case that they dont want any other ads to be displayed with them (they are pointing to TLA) - then i would be first person to not use the kontera ads - as TLA is far more better and they pay good and timely

 

Whats the TLA means, sorry I am new here.

 

TLA = Text Link Ads

Hope it helps...

 

I'm from Kontera and I wanted to drop by and make a point regarding our updated TOS.

Essentially nothing has changed and the updated agreement follows the agreement publishers currently have with us very closely. The updates are designed to ensure that the terminology throughout the agreement is fully up to date with industry standards from a legal standpoint.

Nothing has changed regarding the exclusivity clause – We ask that Kontera partners do not run any additional In-Text advertising service alongside ContentLinks. Running two In-Text services on the same pages disrupts the keyword selection process. As a result, sites are prevented from receiving the most relevant, highest paying ads. The overall quality of the ads as well as the site's appearance may be compromised.

We have no objection whatsoever to using other non In-Text ads alongside ContentLink, like Adsense, YPN or any other such service. In fact the majority of our publishers diversify their revenue sources with great success. When employing two or more ad non-similar ad providers, the services complement each other rather than compete.

 

No excuses for the "we will rip you off" clause, and a complete brush off of clients and concerns. Yeah, you're losing ground pretty quick. Why else would you rip off publishers.

 

How about the fact that your report section sucks? We can't see our earning from the past years? I DON'T SEE ANYOTHER NETWORK DOING THAT. Are you saying you are the only ad network which follows the legal stuff? I don't see any other network doing that.

You guy need to learn, that no one is interested in a bull service! InfoLinks is way better. Within the next months many panters of your are going to leave you and see how better InfoLinks is!

 

my kontera suck! I remove last year

 

How else do you think they get away from stealing from their publishers? By not telling them what they've made previously. It really is an ingenious (not to mention illegal) concept:
Charge people to display ads (advertisers)
NOT pay the publishers to display those ads.

In the year and a half I used Kontera, I can't say as I ever had a satisfactory month with them, and they constantly ripped me off. They STILL haven't paid me for that time, though I've pretty much given up any kind of hope of ever seeing a check from those scam artists.

This is off the topic of this thread, but infolinks is indeed much better, for reporting prefferences, for actual income, even for customer service. Eventually, someone will come along and tell the people @ kontera they're over, and have been for quite some time.

Scamming people is just not the way to make your money. Try being HONEST with your publishers, instead of trying to rip them off!

 

For small sites starting out, you are basically giving away your inventory for free.

 

kontera sucks, every publisher knows that !

 

wat the hell.. publishers better start moving to some other advertiser! :|

 

Does anybody actually run another company's inline advertising in addition to Kontera? It looks to me like they're covering all bases and not introducing a new rule. I have to say that two sets of inline ads is beyond lame. Kontera ads are lame and irrelevant enough without adding a second company.

 

Yeah, Kontera really sucks and after the new terms they totally suck.