recession? there are soup lines now

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by eric8476, Mar 8, 2009.

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    Alright you freakin' DP'ers there are soup lines now and NO WORLD WAR III to bail America out. Why no WWIII to bail America out, because America has enough supplies to fight 100s of World Wars, forget nuclear capabilities that are on everybody's mind, America is ready to fight with enough supplies with or without nuclear capabilities.

    With technology where a lone man or woman can develop a weapon of mass destruction (big yawn because there should satellite technology or other technology that covers The U.S.A. and all of it's assets from an attack like this) is there blind spending on fighting the war on terror with no incentives or economic balance? A terrorist attack is not going to stimulate the economy anyhow, directly or indirectly. Those defenses against terror are in place now.
     
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    It's morning in America, broseph!
     
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    The gap between the rich and the poor in USA was already quite pronounce before the start of the recession. Now given that the poor who was previously sustaining from hand to mouth lost their incomes, I guess this will be more common as the recession deepens. I won't be surprise if those bankers and financiers in Wall Street and Main Street join the queues.
     
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    That is something. Is the middle class disappearing?
     
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    The gap between the rich and poor is quite substantial. But the poor have cars, cell phones, computers and houses that they can't afford.

    It's costly guarding against terrorist attacks using civilian policeman that are paid hourly.

    People need to work harder. We live in a gobal economy.
     
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    eric8476 Active Member

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    We need a new direction, a direction that obama is capable of providing (?). People work hard (some of them) but are we working right into a wall?
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    Socialism doesn't work. See "Socialism in Post-war Britain"
    http://money.howstuffworks.com/socialism5.htm

    "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." -Margaret Thatcher

    Margaret Thatcher: Free Society Speech (1975)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK3eP9rh4So
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    IMHO No, Obama seems to be a populist, I doubt he has the strength and fortitude to go forth with unpopular measures which will help in the long run. I guess he rather rot slowly and hope that the worse is over without needing to take any unpopular actions.

     
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    create a new idea > Socialist capitalism
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Nah....that was the copyright of the CCP Chinese Communist Party! Remember Mr Deng said before of socialist state having capitalist economy, no matter whether it is a black or white cat, as long as it catches rats it is a good cat. The good cat is still quite popular in China....


     
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    If this recession does not end by april (very likely) it will be worse than even 1980 recession .
     
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    I will call it a Depression, the Great Depression refers only to a particular incident, the long economic paralysis of the 1930s and 40s. This time it is too serious for a recession, I guess calling it a Depression suits it more.

     
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    I agree with you. The downturn has already lasted 16 months and there is no end in sight.

    We haven't reached the severe levels of the double dip recession of 1980 and 1981-1982. A douple dip recession is pretty close to a depression.
     
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    No soup for you!

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    Just check out the IPL auction. who will say that recession is going on.
     
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    There's moneyout there. The last 15 years hae been record growth and the govrnments are printing money.
     
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    There is too much money being printed. Too much credit given
     
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    There's $8 trillion dollars on the sidelines. When people start to get confidence, there will be too much money chasing too little goods and services.

    Printing dollars is like adding more water to the soup.
     
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    But with phantom ingredients. Goods and services are at low levels of availability. Where does that extra money go? Saving money is not stimulating the economy.
     
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