If your site is penalized in Google, will a 301 redirect solve it?

Discussion in 'Google' started by domainer_10, Mar 6, 2009.

  1. #1
    Lets say google penalized your page and dropped it many pages down for whatever reason. Can creating a new domain and redirecting give you a "clean slate" when you 301 redirect to it or will the old penalty carry over to the new domain too so you will be forever penalized on even the new domain?

    Anyone have experience with this?
     
    domainer_10, Mar 6, 2009 IP
  2. webcosmo

    webcosmo Notable Member

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    #2
    I haven't experienced it. But based on your description I think a new site would have a clean slate to start with. 301 would make sure its not a duplicate content.
     
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  3. Mats

    Mats Guest

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    #3
    it is useless, the google still visite your old pages,because of your 301 redirect
     
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  4. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #4
    I havent tried it but im sure your correct that google or any other SE would still
    figure that its still directing from the same place or origin.

    If you know your site got stroked and the penalty is sever then i would suggest just grabbing "most"
    of your content and placing it on the new domain with NEW content added and start over
    (making sure you dont make the same mistake you did on the first domain ;)

    laterz
    malcolm
     
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  5. domainer_10

    domainer_10 Peon

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    I think your right. But I dont think youd have to have write new content on the new domain if you abandon the old domain and get the old domain deindexed (or remove the content). You could just transfer it to new domain.
     
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  6. JJnacy

    JJnacy Peon

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    #6
    make sure you have no duplication site

    about 301
    my friend have even tried to redirect to Google home page
    it is not working anyway
     
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  7. roger123

    roger123 Active Member

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    #7
    Best way to get rid of Google penalty is to create a fresh website with no duplicate content, invisble text, links to suspicious sites and anything that violates Google guidelibnes. You should then notify Google with a “Request Reconsideration” through the Google Webmaster Central interface. It jas worked for some of my penalized sites in the past.
     
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  8. Komicwords

    Komicwords Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I doubt you can do that ,it is nice tricks that I believe wont work with the power of Google strong Eye eagle to detect the odd
     
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  9. B'd

    B'd Peon

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    #9
    I will share a trick which worked perfectly for me.

    First thing i did after i got penalized was to block Google from indexing my old domain using robots.txt.Also i used Google webmaster tool to do that and request URL removal.
    [Don't forget to add <meta name="googlebot" content="noindex"> in your header before requesting url removal.]

    After all your pages are removed from Google index,Permanent Redirect the old domain to a new one
     
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  10. Link.ezer.com

    Link.ezer.com Peon

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    #10
    update your site maybe more helpful for google index your site
     
    Link.ezer.com, Mar 8, 2009 IP
  11. domainer_10

    domainer_10 Peon

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    #11
    did it work? seems like google would still see your site via through 301 redirect even id it doesn't index it. Although the deindexing seems like a possible solution, i just wonder if google still keeps a "record" even after removal from index.
     
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  12. domainer_10

    domainer_10 Peon

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    Thanks. so it only worked sometimes? why was that you think?
     
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    bigcat1967 Active Member

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    #13
    Domainer 10...are you talking about just one page that got penalized? If just one page...delete (remove) the page and spin the text and make a new page then abide by the big G's rules. Also, what do you think you did to get penalized? Just curious...
     
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  14. luxl85

    luxl85 Member

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    #14
    Your new site will be considered as duplicate content. I dont know why you must redirect 301 your old site to new site.
     
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  15. bank

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    #15
    It does NOT work, been there tried that many times.

    If it was that easy, everyone will just spam etc without worry because they can just 301 it to a new domain if they get penalized.

    So forget it, doesn't work.
     
    bank, Mar 9, 2009 IP
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    wp-themes Banned

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    #16
    It won't solve the problem dude, fix the main site penalty and get rid of it then request a reconsideration and then cross your hands and pray to make it fast ;)
     
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  17. domainer_10

    domainer_10 Peon

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    Thanks. Did you try a reconsideration?
     
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  18. bank

    bank Peon

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    Yes, although i believe they were not even looked at. I even posted on Google Webmaster Groups, where people are known to "pull your site to pieces" for any non-compliant thing and even they couldn't find a reason.
     
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  19. domainer_10

    domainer_10 Peon

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    #19

    maybe you needed some more backlinks. You can lose rank if your backlinks lose value or you havent new ones in awhile.
     
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  20. bank

    bank Peon

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    #20
    The site has 240,000 backlinks ranking from a PR8 and under (all natural) but it doesn't rank in the top 100 for "site.com page title". So it's not the lack of backlinks, it's a -100 type penalty for who knows what because none of the people on Google groups could come up with anything.

    I don't really care though most my traffic comes from bookmarks and links from other sites, so Google just looks incompetent for not being able to return my site when people are specifically looking for it.
     
    bank, Mar 10, 2009 IP