Does GOD exist ?

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Does GOD Exist ?

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  1. Rick_Michael

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    #201
    I don't, so therefore not 'everyone'.
     
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    #202
    I don't hate them, I just think that they're wackos :D
     
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    #203
    I think it doesn`t exist
     
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    #204
    it? ..................
     
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    #205
    :eek: We actaully agree on something.
     
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    #206
    lol I'm tempted to give you green on that ....

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    nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;)
     
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    #207
    for me it`s a character from a fairy tale - the bible
     
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    #208
    Thank you for your thread,
    I have taken the time today and have recently finished viewing all the post in this thread, entitled does God really exist.
    I was supprised to find this topic on this web site, however i am glad because such is a topic i warm to.

    I would ask a question or two, what is GOD? or who is GOD?, as you are discussing GOD who or what are you talking about?. A little while ago a work colleague of mine mentioned many things which a lot of you viewers have mentioned in the various posts, in fact there is not really anything new here which has not been previously expressed in a similar manner somewhere else and at another time, I don't think its a matter of right or wrongs at this time but a need for understanding.

    This work colleague of mine made his opinion on God very clear, he did not believe in God as some define God creator/ruler, his expression was more of the evolution class mind set.

    Ather his opinion which was anti God, lets say, i asked him which God was he talking about, big G, little G, it doesn't matter surley, because we knew who we were talking about?, well no!. Not really, it was not really true to say that as his discription of God and mine were not the same.

    So i replied to him something like this, i don't know what God it is you are talking about, but my God is the God of the Holy Bible, the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, as it is written in the Holy scriptures, now if you wish to read the bible and then talk to me concerning my God as it is written then do so by all means, but this God of which you talk i know nothing of.

    Selah! (pause think calmly about that)

    For me its clear who God is, God is Love, Love is not God, but God is Love as it is written in the book of first John chapter 4 verse 8, a book near the back of the Holy Bible.

    So then if we take things from this perspective does it not change some of our reasoning if not all, we know that Love bears fruit, which bears fruit and has its seed in its self, leading to life eternal.
    hatred however brings its own fruit that of curruption and violence which leads to death & destruction.

    Selah

    And yet do you know that the Love of God leads you to hate evil.

    psalm 97verse10; 119v104&128&163; 139v21&22;

    proverbs 8v13; 8v36; wow!

    now let me just say i can not possibly cover every thought which arises here,
    there is no justification to go out the road and beat a brother up just because you feel they are working evil, what i am preaching here is the gosple and the gosple means the good news, isn't it good news to know that God is love.

    selah

    Rather than go bash some one's head in, living in fear which is false evidence appearing real F.E.A.R, stop thinking about your selfish self, let me quickly add here, as selfishness is the root of all evil, stop thinking about your selfish self and go out and love some one, change a life, love um.

    I have to add this, Love does not mean sex, it does not mean stuffing your self to obesity, or being overindulgent to the point of laciviousness which is basicly no self control.

    You can love food, and drink and things, technollogy the internet can be great, etc, but love God first, The book of revelation chapter 2verse 4-5.

    My teaching and guidence is from the Bible the word of God as it is written, i have absolute faith in it, and my faith is in the word of God again as it is written " He God has exhalted His word, above all His name" and again as it is written "His name is called the word of God".

    Now i can stand secure in the knowledge that when i talk about God i know what and of whom i speak, now i am able to know Him as Lord, to call God Lord is to declare Him my authority, it states that i am under His authority and dominion, i can choose to ignore Him and lean towards my basic carnal male/female instincs and go bash someone's box in, and keep doing it without restraint, continue to do things my way (fleshly only) and not His way which is to be spirit led, to peace and life eternal, and just to add this,

    Eternal life is not when you die, and go to be with the lord,
    though i do believe and know i will be changed and not see death according to my gosple,

    But lets be clear here, Everlasting life is to know God the Father and His only begotton Son whom He hath sent,

    selah

    this is what the Bible, and my God,Father Love in all His glory,say's Eernal life is, this is what He says.
    It is not something to come,its something you can have,live,experience,rest in,know,partake of,enjoy,love right now,

    and again don't take my word for it
    look for your self, know Him, He is the word that became flesh...the book of
    St John chapter 17 verse 3;


    It is true to say that there are some preachers ministers out there who are not very good, some have proven to be absolutely currupt, some who performed miracles and had huge congragations and the responsibillity to discipline them selves in the love of God have failed and have hurt a lot of people in there actions, however the word of God stands and is true.

    Its not God thats the problem, its us.

    selah


    Need healing in your body, get into the word of God, stay in it, confess it, it is not based upon the natural, even though if your confessing health and strength to your body meanwhile your indulging in smokeing boose and a generally unhealthy diet, it will counter what you have recieved by faith, interms of healing.

    selah

    Do you know that possibly contary to popular belief that God is not angry with us, America, England, China or any country, its true.

    Do you know that Jesus paid the price of the sins of the whole world, 2000 years ago, as it is written " He was bruised for our iniquities and by His stripes we were healed" God is no longer a angry God, the price of Sin was paid for in the flesh of Jesus Christ, thats why in his name by his blood many
    who work their faith and can believe in His name they are healed, reliseing they already were healed and that they do not have to accept the bondage of sin,sickness , desease guiltyness, what-ever that is contary to Gods will and purpose for our lives, again you must know His will, and that is among many a word, as it is written " be in health and prosper" its not the esact quote but look for your self and here are some other scriptures on healing....3rd epistle John 1verse2
    speak these things into being

    selah

    Gods word st john 1;1 isaiah 55;11 romans 3;34
    Healing word st mark 11;24 isaiah 53;5 peter 2;24 st mathew 8;17 psalm 103;1-5 / psalm30;1-3 / spalm91; 10,11
    agreement st mathew 18; 19-20 / eclecciastics 4:12 / psalm 133 / ephesians 6;10

    There's no way to reply to each individuall comment so many other issues here, but if your God is mine or if you understand that the word of God is God and that God is Love and that, God is Spirit and the truth, tommorrow we all live in peace because we won't be waring any more, because we are controlled by the Spirit true love which is not based upon how we think or feel, but we renew our minds daily by the word of God, Romans 12; 1-2

    but from the moment we accept the Son of God, the love of God as it is written, is poured into our hearts, reading is one thing but you must open your mouth and confess the word into your life, for the scripture says, faith comes by hearing and hearing and hearing and hearing by the word of God,
    believe and recieve your blessing, i know this post is long, but heah i must be ministering to someone out there now recieve your healing, and be free from your obsession in Jesus name, and we all said it is done,

    and whom the Son sets free, is free indeed, praise the lord!
    Romans 10; 8-9
    Romans 10;11 -13
    Romans 10;17
     
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    #209
    Why They Question the Existence of God

    More people are doing so today. Do their reasons justify the conclusion that God does not exist?

    IN THE February 24, 1962, issue of Ave Maria the Catholic Cardinal Richard Cushing observed: “For the first time in the history of mankind, atheism is on the march; and the Church is helpless to prevent the advance of anti-Christ.” It is spreading rapidly throughout the world. The idea that there is no God not only has engulfed a large proportion of the more than one billion people ruled by communism, but it has made amazing inroads upon the thinking of persons in noncommunist lands.

    But why do so many persons today question the existence of God? Why is atheism now on the march, and the church unable to stop it? What is responsible for this unprecedented disbelief?

    BELIEF IN GOD’S EXISTENCE

    Philosopher Celestine N. Bittle wrote in his book God and His Creatures: “No people has ever been discovered which, in the strict sense of the term, is ‘atheistic.’ Individuals may be atheists; but a people, never. This universal belief is a tremendous fact.” It is strong evidence that man was originally created with the inherent inclination to acknowledge God’s existence.

    In order to satisfy man’s quest to know about Him, God provided man with an inspired record about Himself. In this account God also explains man’s origin, why sickness and death exist and what hope there is for the future. The collection of these inspired writings is now generally known as the Holy Bible or Scriptures.—2 Tim. 3:16.

    The Scriptures are in harmony with man’s inherent inclination to acknowledge God’s existence and go to support it. They attribute the beautiful starry heavens, the marvelous earth and intelligent man to the handiwork of God. They state: “God created the heavens and the earth,” also, “God proceeded to create the man.” Yes, the evidence of the Scriptures, the natural dictate of human reason and the law and order that govern the universe all testify to the fact that God does exist.—Gen. 1:1, 27.

    WHAT ABOUT HUMAN SUFFERING?

    However, it is because of the unparalleled human suffering in the earth that many persons question the existence of God. This was pointed out by a retired Anglican medical missionary, Marian Sherman, who said last fall: “I became an atheist very largely because of the terrible suffering of Indian women who had never done anything to deserve it. How could an all-loving God allow this to happen? And we’ve had two ghastly world wars. It just doesn’t make sense.”

    Not a few persons reason this way. A loving God, they feel, would not allow human suffering; and since suffering exists, they conclude, there must not be a God who is loving. Is this conclusion justified?

    No, it is not. The existence of wickedness and the suffering it has brought to mankind does not arbitrarily rule that a God of love does not exist. Such a view overlooks entirely man’s responsibility. It is like a patient who ignores a doctor’s instructions, and then denies the existence of the doctor because he is suffering. Or it is like a machinist who refuses to follow the manufacturer’s advice, and then, when his tools do not function properly, denies that the manufacturer exists. In such cases it would be foolish to question the existence of a compassionate doctor or a skilled manufacturer. The individual himself is to blame for the suffering and trouble.

    It is similar with mankind today. The inspired Scriptures show that Jehovah God created the first human pair perfect, with the prospect of enjoying life in an earthly paradise as long as they lived. This provision was an evidence of God’s love. But when mankind refused to follow God’s instructions, they suffered the consequences. This did not mean a loving God does not exist. God had warned them in advance what would happen; so it was man, not God, that was responsible for the suffering, sickness and death that followed.—Gen. 1:27, 28; Deut. 32:4, 5; Eccl. 7:29.

    True, it would not be loving to allow this suffering to continue indefinitely. And this God has no intention of doing. Human wickedness and suffering have been tolerated only because an issue was raised in the garden of Eden. One of God’s spirit creatures, identified in the Bible as Satan the Devil, influenced the first human pair, Adam and Eve, to disobey God. This called into question God’s creatorship and his justice in demanding obedience as a condition for life and yet seemingly not creating man with the capability of remaining loyal to God.

    So God has allowed a set period of time to settle this question of whether men can remain faithful under test. This period is now about up. Very soon Satan and all the human suffering he has been responsible for will be eliminated. It is the loving Creator who will provide this relief by ushering obedient mankind into a righteous new system of things.—2 Pet. 3:13; Rev. 12:12.

    RELIGION’S RESPONSIBILITY

    The churches of Christendom have not made clear to people why wickedness and suffering have been allowed to exist for a time on earth. Rather, they have taught lies about God, painting him as an unmerciful fiend who keeps humans alive in some subterranean lake of fire, where they cook and sizzle in excruciating pain throughout eternity. Such teachings have turned many away from God.

    Many modern theologians and clergymen are even coming to terms with atheism. “I have preached more and more in the past decade on the values of atheism and agnosticism,” wrote Episcopal Bishop James A. Pike. “There has to be a large measure of agnosticism in true religion,” he asserted. And Time magazine of June 9, 1961, observed that “Paul Tillich, America’s most eminent theologian, talks of God as ‘Being Itself’ or ‘Ultimate Reality.’” This characterization, however, says an article entitled “Is Modern Theology Atheistic?” appearing in the Protestant journal The Christian Century, “saves Tillich from the charge of atheism.” But is not this sort of theology that borders on atheism enough to cause a lot of persons to question the existence of God?

    It is therefore apparent that the churches, instead of building faith in God, have been responsible for millions of persons turning toward atheistic communism. Their conflicting teachings, religious persecutions, warmongering and currying the favor of the rich and influential have caused many to reason that, if the churches represent God, then there must not be a God. Many responsible churchmen admit religion’s guilt.

    “I know that it is we, we Christians alone, who are responsible for Communism,” admitted the dean of a European theological school. “Remember that the Communists once were Christians. If they do not believe in a just God, whose fault is it?” And the dean of the faculty at New York City’s Union Theological Seminary acknowledged: “The very atheism of Communism is a judgment upon the churches, . . . which have usually been ornaments of the status quo, no matter how unjust it has been.”

    The failure of the churches to imitate Christ and to provide accurate knowledge concerning God has prepared the way for atheism.

    ATHEISM’S ADVANCE

    Hundreds of millions of persons in Communist lands are being systematically taught that God does not exist, and indoctrination is being stepped up. “Atheism will be taught more intensively at party training centers and in special courses for teachers, doctors and journalists,” Time magazine reported recently. This constant program of indoctrination, especially of the youth, has caused many to question the existence of God.

    Often this propaganda reaches the West in newspaper reports. For example: “‘The Bible says the Creator sent manna to the Jews,’ Premier Khrushchev said. ‘I don’t know whether this is true, I did not see it happen. I don’t know whether the manna was of first quality or whether the Jews got enough of it. To find out, we sent Gagarin up there to take a look. But Gagarin reported he saw nothing but emptiness. So we sent Valentina Tereshkova and told her if she finds manna she should cook herself a meal, but she found nothing. So there is no hope that we can get manna from heaven. This means that we must trust our hard-working hands.”—New York Times, April 7, 1964.

    What a foolish basis on which to question the existence of God! But these persons did not first give up belief in God after the trips into space. Rather, in Communist-controlled countries, faith in God is undermined in youth by constant repetition by teachers and educators that there is no God. Others question God’s existence because of seeing human suffering, and not receiving a satisfactory Scriptural answer for it. And still others have been turned away from God because of the conflicting teachings and the atheistic leanings of religious leaders.

    But there is at least one more vital factor that is responsible for so many questioning the existence of God. That is because they want to believe the lie that there is no God. God’s righteous law is an uncomfortable restriction. They want to be free to pursue their selfish course without the pangs of conscience that would gnaw at them should they be accountable to God’s law. And so, because they do “not accept the love of the truth . . . God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie.”—2 Thess. 2:10, 11.

    A wise person who loves righteousness, however, will never be turned away from God. He will regularly study the Bible, and will grow to love God for the marvelous provisions that He has made for life in a righteous new system of things. Indeed, it is the fool that “hath said in his heart, there is no God.”—Ps. 14:1, American Standard Version.
     
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    #210
    a fairy tale that 'clever' people have used to control and manipulate the 'not so clever' people.

    Man created god for his own purpose!
     
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    #211
    Einstein actually never said that. That is just one of those viral internet stories that circles around the internet. The point is humorous and interesting, but nothing like it ever happened.
     
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    #212
    That's not hard; we want them to do things for us that we cannot do for ourselves. An omniscient and omnipotent God would not need this.
     
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    #213
    I actually think we're pressing for advanced technologies because we want to be 'god-like'. Really....who here wouldn't want to live like your twenty in health in vitality for forty years or more of your life, if you could?
     
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    #214
    I remember reading in 1989 that more than 96 percent of Americans believed in God (some form of God). Seems like that number has been decreasing since.
     
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    #215
    having faith eventhough your in different religion.... you may blame god for not helping you out but you may also blame your self why this things are happening to you(to all of us)... you may choose your own -if ever you are going to do bad things or good... things here are meant to be balance and all the things have a reason that's what i believe and having faint to all the this that might happen to you without a doubt...
     
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    #216
    Science and technology have been advancing at quite a quick pace haven't they :)
     
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    #217
    The more educated you are... the easier it is to realize that God probably does not exist.
     
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    #218
    The more educated you are the more you realize you know very little about the universe, and while there may or may not be 'the god', there could very well be a extremely superior being that is damn near close.

    I happen to think if man was capable of existing together for a long period of time (without killing each other), we'll get to a stage were we conceivable view ourselves in that realm ie are technologies would be so advanced that we could control the cosmos and live near indefinite. I'm speaking of a lot time.

    So while our view of god may be santa-like, there just might be an entity that has similiar abilities...it's conceivable.
     
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    #219
    I believe that there is some super power which is controlling this world.......you can name it as God or anything.
     
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    #220
    exactly, i hope they`ll realise the truth
     
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