Ever Notice this about all religion ???

I suppose you are referring to the infamous theory of evolution again.

 

Change and growth = evolution it's that simple.

The evolution of a plant is that it starts off as a seed and grows, changes and evolves into a more complex organism. Organisms and creatures will change and evolve individually and will also evolve as a species to adapt to there envrioment.

It's not a theory it's a proven fact that things change I have baby pictures to prove it

 

That's just short term evolution (growth) that you're talking about. It doesn't include giant leaps between species like real evolution does.

 

now I can see why you have Borat in your avatar

 

People need something to believe, to define their existence. Even if that belief is that everything is here by chance, and none of us are accountable for our actions to a higher power.

The sad part is when people stop checking their beliefs against logic and good moral standards.

 

Do those "good moral standards" include continuously misreprisenting what science claims? Because most people would consider that to be the height of dishonesty.

 

Some need it so hard as to completely ignore, twist, misrepresent and lie the facts and evidence just to keep their illusion safe.

 

It is not the job of science to come up with answers that are comforting, its mission is to discover and explain reality based on facts and evidence. That's what make science reliable and intellectually honest, no the pawn of some political or religious group with their own agendas.

 

Waah! Load of comments. By the way, can anybuddy help me to find out in this thread something written about, “how trillion.....trillion.....tons of material or basic material came in this universe”? of course they are not alive and have reproduction systems.

 

Heavy elements - Basically anything other than hydrogen - were produced in stars. As for the origin of the hydrogen, It's unclear at the moment.

By the way, Think about that for a second. Everything you can see, everything which is used to make you, Excluding hydrogen, Was produced in a star billions of years ago trillions of miles away. Isn't that a far more satisfying and amazing thing than anything contained in any religious book?

 

Thanx for your explanation. Actually, where the elements were produced is not my question. I wanted to know the origin of the elements, how they appeared or created? Though you said, it’s unclear at the moment. I request other members to describe if they know about it. Something written about this in our religious scripture, Quran. God says, “I create everything from nothing. I have power to all things”.

Further, if you say, something produced in a star billion of years ago & trillions of miles away is an amazing thing than the scriptures, I will say there’re something more interesting and amazing events written in the religious scripture. Angel Jibreel (Gabriel) travelled between a star (described as, it was above the 7th sky, i.e. A long distance) and the earth within a blink of eye. This indicates the speed of angels and distance of a star. In another occurrence, Angel Jibreel wanted to know the destination of heaven. God gave him the direction and said to reach there if he can. After travelling a long period in that speed, he realized that, it’s impossible for him to cross this distance, and if he cross the limit, chances are he will lost his way and energy to get back again. He stopped and returned back.

Haha it’s trillion...and trillion...miles away, isn’t it!

 

Elements are made out of quarks, since and element is an atom. Molecules are made out of elements. Science is made out of knowledge. Evolutions is made out of change. Air is made out of nitrogen, oxygen, and carbon dioxide (along with other gasses). Quarks may be made out of even smaller particles. These particles might even be made out of tinier still. It is unknown how small the smallest unit really is - but through science, not religion, will we know. Assuming we master the technology, we could build atom sized nanobots with quarks, or we could use strings of quarks for memory in a cell size nanobot that would have gigabytes of information - assuming we can modify magnetic fields and the way they bond together.

Science will bring us the future. Not your gods.

You could always assume that God inspires the scientists - but that takes away from the true glory of the Human mind, and the Human will. Otherwise everything we do is worthless and without purpose but to "serve" some omnipotent being for no other reason than to "please him".

Well, slaves do that for their masters. I am no slave, and I serve no God. I'd rather serve humanity than some fairytale boogeyman who watches me when I take a dump, sleep, or eat.

People like to say life has no reason with out God or religion or spirituality. I would like to politely disagree. If your life is determined by some mystical being who broke every law of science that he then re-created - what is your purpose to live? You obviously have salvation to worry about - so go stand in front of two armies and stop wars if you're that concerned about making it to heaven, since according to many doctrines self-sacrifice, martyrdom and a willingness to die for God are rewarded. When you look at it as I do, and see that we are descendants of the original empire of synapsids who died out some 250 million years ago in the Permian-Triassic extinction, were dominated by the diapsids (dinosaurs, archosaurs), then rose back up, you will look at the amazing feat of evolution.

Then to see the rise of primates played out from 85 million years ago (yes 85) until Homo sapiens idaltu some 200,000 years ago, and finally Homo sapiens sapiens begin his world domination tour just 60,000 years ago. We rose up from the ashes as a line and Order, a clade of lizard-like mammals to mammals, through our last 65 million years of mammalian domination.

Our evolution into man is no mystery, we had the advantages of evolutionary pressure on the mind rather than the arms race of weapons and armor. All mammals, including the ancients, had an advantage. We have the neocortex, the layer in your brain that allows you to be, well, human. We have the largest and most developed of all the primates (with possibly Neanderthals having an equal sized neocortex, along with Idaltu man).

Before the current state of mankind was even reached, some 80,000 years ago earlier homo sapiens sapiens set out and traveled to Australia - however their line died out and left us with the current line from the mitochondrial eve.

Then, to look at the past 8,000 years of our history, from stone, to bronze, to iron, to steel. From holes in the grounds to plumbing, from manual labor to machine, from a life expectancy of just 45 to 75. We keep on our progress from the developments of tools, machines, and knowledge. We are only evolving in culture and knowledge now - our days of mutation are long gone thanks to our huge population. Now we have reached a stage where we truly have become masters of matter - but we are still in peril from our own ignorance.

While we rose up through the industrial revolution, we became dependent on oil, and even back then some among us (Nikola Tesla) were speaking against the use of such limited fuels. We lost our way, as we have many times before - but this time we went too far. Now, while our world is within 50 years of losing half of all the mammals alive today, and a two thirds of marine mammals, we have the gall to ask God why?

God did not do any of this as far as I am concerned. He did not teach us to build machines, motors, steam powered broilers, factories that spew out carbon, or the edible panties. He did not invent architecture, he did not invent paintings, he did not invent anything. We did. Individuals who thought, saw, and applied their ideas created the world we live in. As mathematics, chemistry, biology, physics, and the understanding of our world advanced, so did we. So did our technology.

Where is your god in all of Man's achievement? Taking credit for it most of the time. It was not he who won the football game for the highschool, nor was it he who built the space shuttle, nor did he create governments nor did he drop the first atomic bomb. This has all been the hands of man, through and through. Sure, some, many in fact, believed in God, but God never once, never one single time, interfered with the 'will' of man - and thus there was no God when Oppenheimer watched the first Nuclear test, there was no God over Hiroshima, and there was no God at Chernobyl, Katrina, Irene, or any other disaster - and even those last two can be attributed to the hand of man.

We're changing the weather, we're creating the future, we're the ones responsible for the greatest triumphs and tragedies of our days. Since before the Roman times we have killed each other, and we have built.

We are the masters of our little angry world, and we're the doombringers if we choose to be. We are the judges, the jury, and the executioners. We are the lawgivers. We are the savages and the civilized.

It is us, man, who are everything that we know.

But... people still want to escape the fact that it is up to us. So they go. They go down on their knees, and they look to a book made by man, written by man, and obeyed by man, so that they can worship and invention by man.

 

God rocks!

 

psyche

god can't rock without existing.

 

Yeah? Is he on tour?

 

He's always on tour. I hear His shows are always free too! Mostly just the creative hippy types show up though.

 

O yeah, my point is that he/she does exist

He's always on tour, looking after so many people from various faiths, regions and countries is a demanding job

 

sar420 i assume that 420 means you smoke weed as mine does in my name
how could someone who smoke weed believe in god its a shame

 

naaah mate, I don't smoke weed. The 420 in my username is for an enteriely different reason. 420 is a number widely known as a number of naughtyness and mischief in India.

Have a look at this wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_420

And please buddy, don't say I can't be a mischief maker if I believe in God.