Do you think clickbank shave ?

do people from CB actually read this forum?

 

Everyone would do better with CB if they stopped thinking CB is stealing, CB is losing sales etc. You have good and bad days with every network. Just build on what is sucessful and stop trying to get people to say " Yeah they are stealing from us "

And yes I have lost sales from CB when they have problems, but you cant argue with 200 300 400 500% returns on paid advertising.

 

Do you think they will find something new here ? Shaving, problems, etc. - we all know that these topics are the most popular and they definitely know about them ( because there's nothing new .. the same questions all over again ).

 

We are in bad days, did you hear about the financial crisis?, that is all..

 

Clickbank most definitely shaves. They switch accounts from different servers and if you're unlucky enough to be on one of the bad ones, they also screw up tracking in a huge way.

You can temporarily work around this problem sometimes by changing your links to a different Clickbank account. But quite often this is just a short term workaround.

Folks, wake the **** up, okay? Do a little research on other webmaster forums - as well as the excellent and thoughtful threads posted here in recent months about the many Clickbank problems. Clickbank has not been working properly since at least late October of 2008, probably longer than that.

For the affiliates and publishers whose accounts are sitting on the "good" servers at CLickbank, you're probably not seeing problems --- yet. But beware. They do appear to rotate them around. You will have problems at some point.

Look for comparable products to promote at Paydot.com, e-junkie, or downloadable products sold using the Rapid Action Profits script. I advise you to get in touch with the merchant first to build a relationship and make sure that you'll get paid (not for RAP scripts stuff, though - with that you get instant payment via Paypal and the merchant doesn't have to manually issue payment like at Paydot.com or e-junkie.)

After I switched most of my links over to Paydotcom, ejunkie, and RAP products my commissions returned to the normal amounts I'd been seeing in early to mid-October.

I really wish the people who are blind believers in Clickbank would stop coming onto these threads and verbally abusing the people who are seeing problems in their accounts. NO, not everybody having problems with Clickbank is a douchebag who doesn't know how to sell. NO, we're not tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists. A lot of us are hardcore full-time marketers who cross test diligently and will not waste time partnering with businesses who regularly screw over their affiliates and publishers - and who have zero transparency about the fact that they are having major, systemic, problems....i.e. Clickbank.

Search on "clickbank sucks blog" for one guys running account of his problems.

Go to blackhatworld and read their ongoing Clickbank problems threads.

Search at Warriorforum for the many interesting posts about Clickbank problems.

Do some due diligence, folks.

At the very least, cross test. You'll find stuff going on that isn't statistically possible.

Dan

 

Well i asked cause some people were writing posts directed at CB. As if they read them. So I was just wondering.

Just created a new CB account to see if I get sales today.

 

i changed to a new account and after 14 hops I got one sale. Before that about 100 or so hops and no sale. Weird.

 

100 + 14 = 114 .. True ?
114 / 2 = 57 .. True ?

Math is always good You can't say that it's weird - you already got 100 hops before the sale ! At the moment, you've 114 hops and 1 sale .. What's so weird that you got a sale only after 100 hops ?
I'm just trying to say that, you never know, when peoples are going to buy something .. Sometimes it happens when you are testing new features, tools and it really affects results. That's why you need to do long-term research/testing, not 1day-shot

 

I dunno if Clickbank steals or not, but I'm sure if they wanted to do it they could without any of us knowing or finding out.

All I do no is that my brother and I ran a test awhile back when we saw our sales drop to almost nothing. We had a Google PPC campaign going strong for 30 days pulling in over 300 per day. Then one day out of the blue sales stopped for about 2 weeks. This just didn't make sense.

So we created a completely different account on a different IP and everything. Fired back up the same Google PPC campaign and what do you know the first week with the new account and we where back to 300 per day.

I think Clickbank has "holes" in the system for sure. Will they ever fix them I dunno, but if they don't one day people will go else where and clickbank will be a thing of the pass.

 

Did you go back to your original cb account and checked the stats?

 

Ok, I don't post much, I learn more by lurking, but this one's deserves a response.

In my opinion, there's no way in the world CB would be shaving (proper tense ppl) sales.Far too much risk against little gain. At the same time I'm sure not every single sale has been properly credited since CB's inception. That's a far cry from what vstard is saying. Sales go up, sales go down. It is what it is.

If your methods aren't working, try a new one, The area you have targeted, made need a tweak or a whole new approach.
...and no, I am not a CB employee

 

Sales have definitely not been accredited to affiliates because of tracking problems but clickbank will not be making the extra from this the publisher will be making the 75% the affiliate would have

 

I've split tested Paypal versus Clickbank and I got more sales with clickbank...

Obviously this is something only publishers that don't want their products listed on clickbank marketplace can test BUT I think it's something you have to test and see for yourself because it is the ultimate test of how profitable clickbank really is for you.

 

Dude, hes not a clickbank employee, he just trying to explain to you that there are other factors in why your sales have dropped, check our site rankings and PPC competition, that could have an effect on your sales too, reccession can also play a part, but dude don't fall into the trap of other idiots that have been here saying its a "clickbank conspiracy" and they are shaving sales, why the fuck would they do that for??

I would expect that kinda business practice from some little asian or india outfit.

 

I have done some due diligence on those forums and miust of the people complaining on those forums and newbies that have sent 100 hops then screamed blue murder that they are getting ripped off. As for the 'clickbank sucks blog' guy, hes totally lost it!! I mean hes coming up with all these conspiracy theories and to tell you the truth I feel sorry for the guy. lol he even accused me of being a CB employee simiply coz I was trying to explain toi him that there are oither factors to why sales are going down.

 

Dude the funny thing is... I've been accused of being a CB employee myself on more then one occasion lol.

People are too scared these days and pointing fingers at all the wrong places

 

Again, folks, do your due diligence.

I already gave you a list of forums where if you have any brains you'll be very interested to read what experienced, successful, IQ of 140 + people are reporting about serious, systemic, problems at Clickbank.

Patcha, you are so funny - always coming in with the same remarks. What is going on there? Why are you so scared to have anybody think independently, analyze data for themselves across multiple accounts, compare notes behind the scenes with other webmasters, and post our findings?

What is behind that? Talk about an agenda.

My only agenda is to keep getting the word out because I guarantee you, hundreds of newbs stop by here each day, and if I can get just one of them to use his or her head and do some independent thinking and testing so that they don't end up throwing a mortgage payment into useless PPC ads promoting Clickbank, then I'll be able to sleep at night.

Some of us are concerned with uncovering the truth, not being blind to any on affiliate program, software program, etc.

When you're making $50,000+ per year from this you do NOT waste money promoting networks that don't deliver. This is a serious business and there is a lot of money to be made - and lost. So you need to keep your ear to the ground and be very careful when lots of people are reporting problems.

And no, the payments don't always go to the publisher, either. In my publisher account I'm also getting shaved - regularly.

Dan

 

Lol, that is funny!!!!

Its easier for people to point fingers at people than look at themselves and what they are doing!!