So who was "your book. . .written by"??? o-o-o-o-o, wait, I know! Those who wrote your "your book", didn't have "hands", Right? So then, since they obviously had to use their toes instead, you're more inclined to believe that your "your book - written by the" toes "of men and therefore" un-"flawed on top of" not "make believe", Right???
Wow, you really are a tad thick. I suggest you run along now as you are exposing yourself and your lack of common sense + decency to come up and try and talk on our level. Bumbling and talking in tongues is what you religious types do best though, oh! the irony!!!
Yeah. . .He said absolutely nothing! The question on the floor is: "Where Did the Universe Come From???"! And he, neither you have, nor can answer it. Now what do you think he said, since you're like-minded?
Thanks austin. . .now then, where'd this "big bang" come from? What caused "the big bang"? Where'd the stuff that caused this "the big bang" come from? How'd the stuff that caused "the big bang" get there? If that's the way that it happened, why do you call it a "theory"? That should keep you busy till the 22nd Century. No, here "a joke": The fact that you do not understand that THE ETERNAL GOD has no Beginning nor Ending. . .because if HE had a Beginning and/or End, then HE would not be Eternal, huh? Do you got a Dictionary?
LOL. Religious people. You're lucky we're not all god botherers or as has been stated - you'd likely be back in the dark ages. I answered your initial question but you just cannot see it. I however can see you and all that you stand for... you are fully exposed and henceforth, I can play with your sentiments as though they were toys. I studied theology in northern England and have debated many a man greater than you with superior knowledge. I can safely say that you are an ameteur and we'd be chasing tails.
Do you want me to run along because I'm making you to look like the south end of a northbound horse, or do you want me to run along, because you can't answer the question on the floor??? Where Did the Universe Come From??? As for "Bumbling and talking in tongues", somebody obviously forgot to tell you about me. I do neither. and nor am I one of the "religious types". But I do thoroughly enjoy making Baalam's Transportation sorts like you, look like what you the Transportation's descendants, that you are. EXCELLENT POINT PingPong123. . .I really thank our FATHER in Heaven for persons such as yourself. And cheer up, My wristwatch parts didn't work either. . .and every time I crank my car, I think that somewhere in my Engine, a world has been created. . .NOT!!!
Nehemiah, Please stop all the back-to-back posting and bumping of your thread. If you wish to reply to more than one poster, you can simply use the multi-reply button. Also, you can edit your previous post to add new comments and delete all your extra posts. There is no reason to have multiple back-to-back posts in this thread, not to mention it is against the rules to post-pad or bump threads.
You are a lost soul brother. Truly you are, the answer has been given to you but you fail to see it. I promise you that you will live on in your ignorance and miss so many facets of life and that which really surrounds you. I suggest you read 'The God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins: http://richarddawkins.net/ . Many a question not unlike that which you have posted has been answered by the godless among our society. While truths are revealed, religious texts fade into obscurity. Christianity is slowly fading and this is a correlation you should be made aware of. Religion, in general, is battling to stay alive. One last time for your poor simple mind. It has been put forth that the universe is infinite / eternal and therefore has no beginning or end and in turn needed no creator. God is an invention of man to fill those cracks in which the feeble stumble. And you sir, have stumbled. Rest easy in the knowledge that your archaic mindset is widespread but the battle is ours to win. Your kind of mentality is fading away with each generation. Be sure of that; the figures do not lie!
I think you should calm down Nehemiah. if you want to have a reasonable discussion about subjects we can do that, But let's do it without intentional misrepresentations and frantic posting. I thought you christians were supposed to be humble? or are you, like most christians, christian by name only? Practice what you preach or abandon the faith. The big bang theory explains the expansion of the universe, not it's origin. We are working on it's origin and will get back to you with an answer. But while we don't have an answer it doesn't make any explanation pulled out of thin air any more plausible. For instance, if i got home to find an apple pie on my kitchen table the fact that i don't know how it got there doesn't make the claim that the magic pie fairies delivered it any more likely. it's called the god of the gaps. it relegates god to the left-overs of science. it waits for scientists to honestly say "we currently don't know" and then shreeks "GOD DONE IT!!" as if that is even a remotely logical argument. Do you have a book on grammar?
What the hell does your question have to do with atheists? You made up the answer to your own question and are somehow superior to atheists? Do you think before you type?
Dear Nehemiah, the great prophet, which is also the name of the street I live in in Israel Atheism does not pretend to answer that question. The scientists do not know, they just speculate, based on the FACTS and EVIDENCE they have. Religion do not question --> Religion knows it all already. If the Evidence contradict what the religious people believe, they just ignore it.
I hate to act like this, but I have a question for you. Do you consider yourself intelligent? Are you literate? 1. What caused the big bang? - We don't exactly know this. We have proof that it happened, not why it happened. 2. Where did the 'stuff' that caused the big bang come from? - Similar answer to the first question. This question is making me wonder if you read my original post. 3. How did the 'stuff' that caused the big band get there? - Refer to #2 and my original post. 4. 'If that's the way it happened, why do you call it a theory?' - I have no idea what you mean by this question. Do you understand what a theory is?
Koan, NO "religion" gave us the answer to this "question", GOD HIMSELF did. I could give less than a tinker's damn of what [fallible] humans wrote it, or how many times that it has been translated and or mistranslated, and just kinda screwed with by demonically possessed mankind; For those of us who BELIEVE on HIM with our entire being, HE has revealed, is revealing, and will reveal all to us. . .Not only HIS AWESOMENESS, but HIMSELF, as well: Its the "consciousness" that Corwin was speaking of back in Post #2, in this Thread. No, since I believed on GOD [THE WORD of GOD/JESUS CHRIST], I don't lie to my kid, grand-kids, etc. about "Santa Claus", "Easter Bunny", etc. . .because "a little leaven leavens the entire/whole loaf". And the best of intentions, aside/apart from THE WORD of GOD, of parents, adults, are always cloudy in, and clouds the mind of a child. Please show me one instance in all of Scripture of one "Blind belief"??? While you're looking, I'll tell you ahead of time. GOD always proved/proves HIMSELF, before HE ever asked any of of HIS Created humans to do anything. . .even believe on HIM. Now then, let me show you for the phony that you've just revealed yourself to be: According to you, I "said", "God is eternal and doesn't need to be created.". Now then, you either go back and quote me as stating/saying that, verbatim, or you... I never said what you've accused me of, because I never used the word "need" and "GOD" in the same sentence, within the context that you're implying, in any of my previous posts. Nice try though. . .but no cigar. You really ought to go to some of my post elsewhere within this forum. That to me is "pretty laughable", that you haven't already, before you decided to pick a debate with me, read any of them. I'm sure, if you had, then later on you'll agree, that you would have done a heck of a lot better walking through the cage of a hungry two-year old lion's cage, wearing pork chop B-V-D's, before picking a fight with someone THE LORD GOD has chosen to use. I don't despise Science. Heck, THE WORD of GOD proved Science, long before Science became Science.
...I suppose this just shows how ignorant some Christians are. (sorry for posting a generic Atheist comment, I felt it had to be done)
Okay then, since, by your own admission, "I studied theology in northern England and have debated many a man greater than you with superior knowledge", then you should have no problem answering the following questions. . .from "The Bible": 1) What is the first thing that THE ETERNAL GOD Created, according to Scripture ("The Bible")? 2) How did JESUS CHRIST pull off dying for all the sins of mankind, according to Scripture? 3) If GOD IS GOD, and can do anything, according to, ". . .nothing is impossible with God" (Luke 1:37), then why does Scripture state that GOD ". . .cannot lie...", according to Titus 1:2? And especially to him, huh?
Exactly, and every scientific discovery throughout the history of science has proven that almost everything has a porpose and order to it. What keeps the planets rotating around the sun? Gravity. Gravity has laws, the cells in our bodies have laws that keep them together. there has never and will never be a scientist that can truely believe that our universe could be created by chance even if the theory right now is the big bang theory. This is something that hits us right in the common sense part of us. A gaseous cloud has complexity and design written all over it. How can something just come about? Go before the big bang, before that even, and even before that. An intelligent force had to have set all of this into motion. The origin of everything has to come from intelligent design . Oh well, back to my leaf thorwing experience. Im on the 100988 time and my hands are getting tired. So far I havent created a donkey yet but I have FAITHHHHHH (get it) that I will