I don't know if I call it murder... and I can't say that it's wrong either. I think it fully depends on the individual circumstances....
Fair enough. I'm thinking you're considering rape and incest cases or when their lifes in danger. I would add that the latter is not as frequently valid as some proclaim ie it's very, very rare. Or perhaps it's different view....?
I'm not a medical expert but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of cases where later (passed 3 months) in pregnancy specific things can happen and be detected.. showing a fetus has little or no chance of surviving, will have some kind of horrid birth defects, etc... I think the "crack baby" thing might be one of those instances? And of course there's the times when a woman's life is endangered...
Since when can a baby survive outside the womb without the mother? If she squats in a field and pops out her baby, walks away from her newborn, will it live on its own? I didn’t know a baby could feed itself, bath itself, walk to the grocery store by itself, and go to work and pay bills? Wow, I guess its not worthy of life unless it can make its own way from the point of conception to the workplace, all the while dodging a suction cup or long needle. I believe women who want to abort their helpless child (who wants to live and survive) and desire abortion rights, should be rewarded for murdering their successor. A tax break should be given to any women who aborts Yo-Yo’s child. In fact, when a woman exercises her right to murder her own child it helps in keeping nutcases from propagating their worthless genes into the general population. We should call it the lobotomy of the womb! I like to call it 'Liberal Lobotomy!' D
And btw, what kids need is not an upbringing in a palace with the most expensive clothes. Kids need love and to know that their parents are on their side. The whole "we can't afford kids" excuse is something I hate more than anything. We couldn't "afford" my daughter when she was born, but we made things happen. What else can motivate you as much as being able to provide for your own child?
Of course people should have the right to choose. Purely from a practical point of view if it wasn't legal then people would still go ahead and go to backstree abortion clinics. You can't stop people doing what they they want to do no matter how much you want to control them. You might as well make sure two people don't die instead of two.
unless you're really able to predict the future of a child, you shouldn't be able to make decisions to take their future away.
Moraly you're probably right, but it doesn't work like that in the real world. Moraly Communism is right but it never works out like that.
I don't think it's too much about morality. I just know a lot of people from shitty upbringings whose lives have turned out great, and others who had everything going for them and went downhills. My point is: you never know.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that point, I 100% agree. However, I believe you can't control people 100%. Even if and when it's illegal people still find a way to get around it. Someone that has thought seriously about an abortion and has been forced into it by a set of curcumstances isn't going to think about the legality as their own issues tend to outweigh the law. Far better to do this in a safe and controled environment than in a grotty backstreet clinic.
It was just an example.. there's plenty of things that we can't control to 100% as you say. Still, we have laws for this which helps to reduce the crimes.