~Suspected atheist~ Texas school teacher gets disciplined

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by cientificoloco, Feb 5, 2009.

  1. #1
    TX school authorities are working hard to keep up to the state's reputation when it comes to civil liberties. This school teacher was suspended and the school is trying to get rid of him because he is atheist and liberal.

    The story

    One of the scariest parts:

    "the principal had met with the minister of the local church and had discussed my suspension with him. I also later received information .../... that the minister was now subbing at the school and that he had heard that he would be taking my position, or if I returned he would be co-teaching with me":eek:
     
    cientificoloco, Feb 5, 2009 IP
  2. hostlonestar

    hostlonestar Peon

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    EVERYONE! Not all Texans are like this school board. I promise. We may love our guns, and some may love their religion (not me), but we are an open minded people.

    If I was this guy, I would sue the pants off these people.
     
    hostlonestar, Feb 7, 2009 IP
  3. Barti1987

    Barti1987 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah yeah, make excuses... :rolleyes:

    Peace,
     
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    Hey now, not my fault there are some in my state that would prefer to stay in the old days.

    Now, I will go back into my underground fall out shelter, hug my guns, and eat my MRE's :D
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    Lonestar dont bother buddy, there will always be some people that will single out a few people from a single group and think the whole group is like this. Remember the 1960's;)

    Im just glad that now we are alot more open minded then in those days
     
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  6. Scoty

    Scoty Active Member

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    Totally agree with this. People are ignorant.
    I've debated quite a lot with people on politics and most of the time they're spouting the same as everyone else that actually knows nothing on the subject but think they know everything 'cause they saw it on TV.
     
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    I live in Utah, so I can't say much about the intolerance of others, but this depresses me. It's time to file a serious lawsuit.
     
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  8. ChrisMiller

    ChrisMiller Prominent Member

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    Wow what BS I got kicked out of 1 of my classes once for saying I am a Atheist and it was a "Public School"
    the teacher told me to watch my mouth and I was like
    ^^ Sorry if that offends anyone I was just telling a story... :eek:

    -Chris
     
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  9. Scoty

    Scoty Active Member

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    I'm Agnostic, but you should respect other's beliefs and not be so extreme, that way you will also have the moral high ground every time, really instead of looking at it as the bible is bs etc look at it as you believe it's bs while other's don't
     
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  10. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    he was told to "watch his mouth" because he said he was atheist. Isn't that extreme already?:eek:
     
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    Exactly. There are some small towns in quite a few states that are like this. Whether Texas, Georgia, Utah, Alabama, TN, KY, most happen to be along the bible belt that runs from central east coast down....heck, you can't even buy alcohol on Sundays in a few states.

    But it amazes me how many people will generalize a whole state based on the acts of one school district. Nearly all of Texas is not like this, there is a few smaller towns, but as I said, quite a few states are like this. I am by no means a religious person, as I just can't fathom an invisible man living in the clouds coming to people in dreams and mysteriously making a "virgin" pregnant. This is where I steer away from my general conservative views.

    I may be conservative in a lot of issues, I love my guns, I think abortion is wrong (on a ground that the fetus is living not on a religious ground) but still think its the woman's right to choose, I like small government, and think the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms) should be a convenience store not a government agency.

    But, I also think things like, religion has no reason to be in a public school. If I was this teacher, I would be making a lot of money off of a lawsuit. Being suspended could kill his teaching career, no matter what the reason.
     
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    ryanfrank412 Peon

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    The world needs more liberal atheists; they tend to use logic when thinking
     
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    Why should we?

    And i take it you are specifically singling out religious beliefs for the special treatment. I mean, We don't have to respect the "belief" that elvis is still alive or that the world is flat do we? No, we openly laugh at such ludicrous beliefs. But when it comes to the belief that god came to earth, had himself killed and then inspired a bunch of guys to write a book, that deserves "respect"! I don't think so.

    Part of the problem comes from non-believers thinking that the level at which someone believes something some how affects their ability to criticise it. It has bred this culture where we think being "offended" is the ultimate in human suffering and in which decent can be stifled by a single shriek of "that offends me!".

    As Stephen fry once said in response to the mohammad cartoons; "you're offended..... so f**king what?".
     
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  14. Scoty

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    Because it's the right thing to do.

    If someone believes Elvis is still alive, fair play to them, unless you actually watched Elvis die/saw his body, you don't know for sure, though having said that, at the same time if there is sufficient evidence - say a load of people confirming he is dead after seeing the body before his funeral - then it is generally considered fact, yet this is by no means the same for every case.

    You cannot prove or disprove the existance of a God or Gods or anything else of that nature. Sure the story with Mary may seem odd to us and fake, but as the story is over 2000 years old, who are we to judge?

    Just because your own belief is set in stone in your mind, it doesn't mean it's correct so everyone else should have that same belief as you, many religious people have this same view point, at the same time; many do not, it's just here we see reports of this kind of thing but what you don't see is any reports of those who are open minded because it doesn't cause any problems.

    As for the cartoons, they probably shouldn't have been made if they were knowingly going to cause problems, at the same time, those who were offended shouldn't have taken it so seriously. It's a two-way street. A sort of comprimise between the two generally works best such as comedians use.

     
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    No it's not.
    since when has being unable to disprove a claim been grounds for respecting it?
    Sorry, But nobody, religious or otherwise, has the right to go through life never being offended. If people want to draw images of mohammad they are well within their rights to do so. Why? because only followers of islam are obliged to follow it's rules. And if that offends them they will just have to be offended.

    And what problems are you talking about? The "offence" is caused or the inevitable violent, hate filled protests inciting murder that followed? if it's the latter, Have a long hard think about the concept of giving in to demands because of fear.
     
    stOx, Feb 25, 2009 IP