Why is it so hard to be listed in DMOZ?

I have been trying for years to be listed in DMOZ for multiple websites. My most recent one was www.jazdchemicals.com . Once again it was turned down for no reason. I have looked at many sites within the chemical buying area and none of them are much better then mine. Why cant I get listed?

 

Can we get a copy of the rejection letter?

 

did you even know the odp directory sending out emails for '' rejections '' when we are specking about the listings ? So far I know they are sending emails only when its about the editorial applications to become volunteer editor ... my two cents

@chemical ... sites from specific category do not have sometime nothing to do with the category where they are listed and is hard to believe there will be fixed soon , most of the dirty from directory is usually covered easy by the '' reporting tool '' and the reporting thread from RZ forums , allowing peoples to '' report '' unappropriated listings at the directory , thing which is really working ( i`ve tested personally and is working like a charm - they deleted two dead links withing less than a hour ) . Also by my personal experience with browsing the directory few hours till now in total at my life i`ve found enough listings there which can be considered spam , links which are breaking the rules and the guidelines which peoples are lying are followed - all those links are live still there since I`m not name this domains on public forums (yet ) , didn't give them a chance to close my mouth '' cleaning the dirt '' until i`m not finding how is possible to be lyied on public by some peoples who pretend to be honest

 

I doubt that you have received a rejection notice, we don't send them. I have often argued that if we did we would create an incredible amount of heat in forums like this. "No" I have been told, not details just tick some boxes. We do that for rejection of editors and just look at the heat that has generated from applicants like trustnobodynever on here. He makes out the best case in the world for us not sending out rejection slips for sites IMO.

Your site has probably not been rejected but sits in a Q. We do not claim to be a listing service for webmasters and we do not claim to review submissions in any time limit. Truth is it can take from a few days to a few years for a site to be looked at. Remember we editors are all volunteers, we give of our spare time and building the directory is our hobby. We only demand that editors edit once each four month period to stay as an active editor. Many editors do put in long hours each day but they are not also obliged to deal with submissions, there are many other ways to build up the directory and other tasks to be done inside the directory. I have spent all my editing time for weeks now just looking at the sites where our machines have flagged up a problem, 404 or redirect etc. So we cannot even speculate on a timescale. So promote your site somewhere else there is nothing more you can do at DMOZ......unless y ou want to join us, give up your spare time and edit

And before you ask, no we don't do status checks, if your site is within guidelines it is in a Q it will not be rejected and some day it will be reviewed, if it is not within our guidelines it will be rejected.

 

I wish you could understand how that sounds to the rest of us. Your reply is basically we don't give answers because we don't like people questioning how we do things.

hmm...what does DMOZ say?

http://www.dmoz.org/help/geninfo.html

The directory is far from superior quality and those checks and balances are really just stall methods. DMOZ is as much a dinosaur as the original mozilla project.

 

Well I thought it said that we would never get any editing done because we would spend hours trying to answer why every web site that had been rejected had been rejected. And we would get more insults and more comments that we are corrupt and more hate posts on here....just look at the way an editing rejection is like lighting a touch paper on a firework for trustnobdynever and now he's flashing and cracking and lighting up the sky like a sky rocket. Till he burns himself out.

If you saw the amount of red ink of my dashboard indicating sites that have been removed with problems, you would believe that they work!

But for your information my belief is that we build a directory because we want to map the net and do it as our hobby and for anyone who wants to consult the largest human edited directory. If you don't like us, that's fine, no problem. I might not like your stamp collection or what ever you do as a hobby, but I don't ask you to declare that so that I can comment on how you spend your spare time.

 

I have had quality websites waiting for review by DMOZ for over 6 years. No response, rejection or otherwise, has been received.

 

i don't really have a problem with this, and honestly can understand where Anonymously is coming from regarding this point; that said, the one thing i wish dmoz would implement is some way of knowing whether or not your site has been looked at yet or is still in a queue. for instance, one of my educational sites has received awards and recognitions from respected educational organizations and several universities...however, i submitted to dmoz quite some time ago and have no idea if it was rejected or is in a very long queue...just putting my wish out there!

 

We used to do those checks and mostly it was a waste of time, the majority were told in a Q. The truth is that most sites would be acceptable in many areas, if it has unique content and is not a deeplink, though some are listed, so most of the time we were saying it waits in a Q. That in itself brought frustration, but it also informed people that they had been rejected and that brought more problems.

The chances are high for a good educational site to be listed, but we just don't have enough editors and we also don't see attending to submissions as being our only or often main priority. As I have said in another thread I have spent the last few weeks and likely the next few weeks checking on sites which our machines say have issues..404's etc and I have not looked out side the directory for sites neither dealt with any Q's. I see as one of my priorities to see if the machines are right and to find an alternative URL if possible. That may not be what you want to hear, but this is my hobby, it is my spare time and webmasters are continually being told that we do not undertake to review submitted sites in any time frame. If people want to offer sites, we accept that and many hundreds are listed in this way, but there is no telling which will be reviewed and when. Sorry but that's how it is.

 

A major systems crash in late 2006 caused the huge majority of pending listing suggestions to be lost . If you haven't re-suggested your websites since then, please do so, just the once, now.

 

It's seems you didn't even understand what I`m trying to do with this '' case '' ... and i`m sure other peoples who can change something didn't even bother to read what I write till now ...
1. I don't wanna have my sites listed there ( not now not never LOL ) . Was enough for me to see how's the things works !
2. I don't wanna be '' volunteer '' editor there . ( not now and probably never ) - NOTE : maybe in case if something will change in better way MAYBE i`m thinking serious to spare some of my time with this ... it's a BIG maybe just because it's seems this things aren't changed since months .
3. I hate when someone consider '' higher and better '' than others when is not , ( example the warnings which I got before, and the way how the threads was closed before I think you and others know what I`m saying there)
4. I hate when someone lying anyone ! under any circumstances ! ( look at he RZ forums ... take like 1 hour and read few threads there ... peoples asking desperate about some damn it help - from the peoples who's supposed to do it ... and what they got ? same robotic answers ... guys think about even a second about this , if someone need to play trivia can go on undernet and play it ! ... ) Peoples who know about the RZ forums means they already read loads of information's about ODP ... there aren't coming someone who '' first time come online '' on hes life !
5. Things must be changed in better way ! why because that's the way how world move , dictatorial way how it's driven this community isn't right ! If you guys pretend to build a directory like a hobby DO IT , this DON'T MEANS TO BUILD A DIRECTORY WITH SPAM SITES ! , if you guys or the ones who's accept or reject the editor applications do not know what means spam LEARN ! ( this include the genie who give me infractions under this forum ) . LEARN what in the name of god is SPAM comments on forums , learn what means spam sites , and how can make a difference between legit content and spam ones . Until now I didn't see something like this , I spend like few hours on ODP browsing and I found more spam links like I used sometime to have on some shared hosting accounts damn it .
6 . IGNORANCE ... I personally hate it and its seems to be a practice there , I understand some peoples have the right to consider '' before the law '' , it's a personal right to consider like wish BUT .... try and do not show this on public ... or at least not with the peoples from who guys practically leave and enjoy your hobby ! From this hundreds and maybe millions of peoples who visit the directory , from the webmasters who build good or bad sites , from THEM you guys you have the material for your '' hobby '' ! ODP editors do not have this hobby from the peoples who dont even have a computer at home or from some doctors or students who work in their free time to pay the school taxes ! ...
7 . None hate none without a reason never , HUMANS love and share their love unconditioned , who don't understand this have serious problems , for example ... go to RZ forums and look at the thread where different peoples come and report dead links and other issues ... ask yourself why they do this , and spend few minutes even email them all few questions why they do this ... Another example , take a rest today from your computer and go out , go to the 3'th corner street from where you leave and get a pen and a piece of paper ask 10 peoples few questions like for example :
what is love ? / what is hate ? / when you love someone and when you hate someone ...
Places where something bring constructive criticism in my personal opinion are good , if you wanna you can check on internet google about places with criticism about paypal services for example , about criticism of George W. Bush ... you can even find idiot's who do criticism @ the pope Benedict lol ... IF someone expect something on history to not be criticized its wrong ! That make us HUMANS ... we aren't sheep's to have all same goal and to be let driven by one person THIS MAKE US HUMAN!
I can make the list bigger but ... it's enough till now

 

browser error ! mods please delete this post I edited it but I cant edit it

 

"If you guys pretend to build a directory like a hobby DO IT , this DON'T MEANS TO BUILD A DIRECTORY WITH SPAM SITES ! "

If I have a fake coin in my coin collection, are you the judge who tells me to take it out. Because you got rejected as an editor, and from what jimnoble says you have not been entirely truthful about what was said to you in your rejection slip, you now seem to want to say that you never really wanted to be an editor, you don't want your sites listed there but you can tell the volunteer editors who have struggled and past the entrance exam and who spend hours of their time on their hobby what they can now do and how to do it. This from the one who spectacularly failed.

 

I`m not your or anyone judge , I`m sure the peoples who are devoted to their work ( even if is volunteer work like you guys do - or supposed to do ) check always what happens around , for example the editors who replied on this thread and on other threads from DP forums , editors who browsing and answer sometime on sitepoint forum for example , another forums ....
What Jim said ? Jim rarely when is bother to read even half of a phrases from what peoples say even , he's usually jump on hes prefiled advertising text and just paste them on the replies , look at the RZ forums where he's more active and spend few hours reading for example 300 of hes posts 99% of them are IDENTICAL , in the seo terms duplicate content damn it . When hes bothering to answer to something he's cut some part's of the phrases and maybe thanks god we have from him few words .
Honestly I don't even care about the editor application , I swear ! I`m repeat I filled it just because I wanted to check if is true working and how's working , was filled with fully honestly / true information ( * just a note at the affiliate sites or whatever is the sentence - I write just one of the sites - actually isn't even a truly site lol it's just a test at this moment ! I`m having at this moment 5-6 tests running within 6-8 months period to see how the niches are performing ... and so on ... the site is fully functional at the moment said , it's just using an commercial script with the legal license - only reason for what I`m not consider it '' real '' is because I didn't write the code with my hands ) .
If you wanna I can forward you the emails which I got the rejection or I can move the personal information from the email and I can give you the password from the email ( since some of the things from email are really personal things - invoices paid at different membership sites / some licenses and so on ... I don't think will be a good idea to make them public )

Its not first time when I`m saying :
1. I filled the form for editorial volunteer JUST like a test to check it out ! ( the second application - which I refer on other threads / replies - I just asked one of my folks to fill it - only thing which was made '' identical '' was the category - nothing more and nothing less I think you read the post where I explained it ... )
2. I don't care about my sites to be listed on ODP honestly I never checked if some old projects was added or not ( i`m pretty sure they aren't ) , Most of my sites which I`m still own are made just from passion ( the code / the features and so on ... practically they have everything need now and i`m keep them up because I wanna aging them before they probably will finish to be sold ) , I`m not interested to list them at ODP and is not worth for me all those hundreds of minutes spend to write with you guys just for a link when I can go easy to yahoo or botw directory and pay for the review if I really need it , how I was paid before some '' seo experts '' to fill some of the domains to directories just for boosting my links a little ... let's face it my time can be spend much better with more pleasure doing other things ( maybe more profitable ) .

What I failed ? I didn't even wanted to have any success and we can speak where about failure ? How can I have a failure when I`m not looking for success ? ALL the examples named before there or at RZ forums are real true and correct , like on the court say '' I swear bla bla '' ... you can check the thread with report bad links from rz forums to see exactly the date when I reported the two expired links , if you have access you can also see the time elapsed between the time when I reported the links and they got deleted . Same like this links was real listed there same the other links which are breaking the so loved guidelines are real and they are still real .

 

Seemingly not... there are plenty of fake sites there as it stands, and seemingly only a very few editors will touch an automated (non-human) listing from an admin. So I guess you are right... DMOZ is full of fake sites and littered with spam, because even with the report button, we, the public, have no right to tell you how do add or remove sites from your hobby.

I'm glad the truth is out now... I for one feel better

 

Truth can have different '' faces '' , but always we must look about it !!! The way how things are made public from inside editorial team ( at any level ) it's not helping the peoples by any way , WE ( programmers / webmasters and owners of sites / companies who use online presences and so on ) giving editor's from ODP the right '' toys '' to express their hobby and to practice it ! Starting from this point ( I personally don't claiming anything right from this) but I`m expect to be treat with same respect i`m showing for the peoples .

If you guys will look around and search what means spam and what is legit content things was changed over the years , the hole world was changed , we are changing day by day , I personal I`m cant pretend to know more and less than anyone , but when I`m seeing something with my eyes , and when I`m reading something else from '' official point of view '' .... there is something really wrong , and this is the main point for all those interminable posts .