What is wrong with this concept ??

Discussion in 'General Business' started by fionix, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. #1
    I need some serious input here.
    Our cores business is complete different then what I’m going to speak about here and therefore our fail of success don’t harm, but it is irritating me that I can’t figure out what it wrong by the following.
    For some time ago we opened a small forum up with a membership section and where it is possible to download all the Software, eBooks etc. which people are paying fortunes for everywhere else.
    We thought to take the fee to cover the bandwidth costs and at the same time offer it to new webmasters to get their attention.

    However it failed completely and I can’t figure out why?

    So I would like to get you input to this:

    The part of the forum can be found here and the sales pitch too.

    Can you tell me what is wrong?

    Don’t come with comments about copyright and all such we have everything in place what that part involves. I want to know why we can’t get it to the people??

    And, yes we bought tons of trash traffic from some DP’s and feedet it also with good SEO traffic from the rest of our network.

    Thank you for all good input here ;)
     
    fionix, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  2. netmaxin123

    netmaxin123 Banned

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    #2
    Well,
    This are just honest comments from me, Nothing offense

    1. There are more then 500 forums which are offering this for FREE (Cannot name them here) , Do some google search you can find it easily

    2. If you are saying dont comment on license , Then WHY DONT YOU make a Public and clear that you have all license and re-distribution or re-share rights. if you are confident

    Now with #2 only you can make a difference if you are really having license then you get gain PUBLIC's trust and value

    Or else

    #1 is best if you are also having same thing

    There is nothing to much think on the kind of business you are doing, As I already said I have no offense , its just my personal honest comments, MAY BE I THOUGHT IT MAY HELP if you post on your thread about giving people confidence that you have license because that is the thing which you are differently then gain on that difference value

    Thanks
    Cheers
     
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  3. fionix

    fionix Well-Known Member

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    #3
    Thank you :) We have the licenses and everything that's why I say no need to mention that, and we already posted this on the same AD with no effect, then I took it off and still no effect :)

    But it might be true when you are saying that many other forums have the same, I will check it and see what they did and see what comes out.

    Thank you very much for your honest opinion, any other input would be nice.
     
    fionix, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  4. JMapleton

    JMapleton Peon

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    #4
    99% of the ebooks out there are worthless and you can find better info online for free, that's why it failed.
     
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  5. Phil Jones

    Phil Jones Peon

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    #5
    Two reasons that I can see...

    1). You have nothing really unqiue included for the money.
    2). Your sales copy doesn't really show the benefits... after reading I was a little confused really.

    Kind Regards
    Phil Jones
     
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  6. gemini181

    gemini181 Well-Known Member

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    #6
    Yep, most of them sell for 99 cents (or less), once they have been out for a little while.
     
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  7. fionix

    fionix Well-Known Member

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    hmmm, thank's - I don't get it, at least the first 2 eBooks was sold as WSO's and here at DP for less then a week ago for $11 - $20 each, some of the software is still sold for $20 - $47 I just saw a thread here at DP where someone is selling the forum submitter thing.

    I admit, much of it is trash, and I believe ppl know that, but still they are buying it as I see it in the chasing of easy money.

    Okay, the sales copy, I will get someone to make something better :)
    The entire idea was to bring it cheap to the people, so that they can see what others are paying for very expansive.

    Keep the critic coming, need your input here.
     
    fionix, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  8. Phil Jones

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    #8
    That is your problem.
     
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  9. fionix

    fionix Well-Known Member

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    #9
    I don't need some comments just to get your post count up!

    If you have something to say, then let me know else find a other playground.
     
    fionix, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  10. SiLvER

    SiLvER Well-Known Member

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    #10
    Is your membership site oriented in the make money online niche? The competition is pretty touch and the market became saturated.

    I don't have experience with membership sites but, do you offer a free trial? maybe for 3 days, 20 downloads or some specificic product downloads.

    Maybe give up on membership sites and try info product writing.
     
    SiLvER, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  11. fionix

    fionix Well-Known Member

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    :) Thank you, no we don't give any free membership or free downloads... as mentioned this isn't any core business or business in general we are doing with it.

    It was ment as some campaign to attract the attention of Webmasters, for intant if they bought a membership while they want to download the things available then they stay at the forum as a "posting" member.

    But maybet that's all the wrong way to do it.

    However, thank you for your input, keep posting...much appreciated;)
     
    fionix, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  12. flix999

    flix999 Peon

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    For me sounds ok :)
     
    flix999, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  13. SiLvER

    SiLvER Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Hehe, I am sorry, I didn't read your first post from top to bottom because I was in a hurry and while writing my reply I assumed that you had a paid membership site that you had problem on promotion and marketing :)

    The problem about the software, ebooks and all the material you offer for the insiders is that they are old and outdated, experienced surfers have seen this stuff before and that's why you dont get memberships.

    Try a new sales copy that outlines what's is offered and try to hype it up more.

    Can't think of anything else right now because as I said I have no experience with such stuff and I am writting ideas and theories I have :)

    Good luck,
    Van Silver.
     
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  14. fionix

    fionix Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, already ordered a new sales copy, will get it on soon.
     
    fionix, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  15. mentos

    mentos Prominent Member

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    #15
    IMO,the thing you offered is too common and can be found at many place.
    Why people want to pay for that?
    Besides,you should try offering some item that is rare and can't be found at any forum.
    Try do offer package at lower price will help.
     
    mentos, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  16. akiza

    akiza Peon

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    #16
    same point all things are available for free nothing unique there.

    Let me tell you a good step by step strategy which other people charge, and believe me people are charging to tell such common things :)

    Step one: Get some visitors for your forum. Make it a webmast6er forum only.

    Step Two: When you get sufficient visitors let say 1000 - 2000 per month. Introduce a free download section for all your members. Eventually it get famous blv me :p Track the visitors and performance of that section.

    Step Three: When you think its getting enough traffic and people, introduce a EXCLUSIVE MEMBERS AREA with some membership fee. Plus Introduce an offer on referring 10 people one can get that membership for frree.

    Step Four: Wait and see the results :)

    It will works, guaranteed.
     
    akiza, Feb 22, 2009 IP