"The Soldier"

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by chulium, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #41
    Judging by your maturity level, I'm guessing you're in your early twenties, if that.
     
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    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #42
    You're just showing by sarcasm here how you don't even support the troops we have out there, you don't support a God that is helping us and you don't support the fight against evil. Do you have a heart?
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #43
    I refuse to support rapists and murderrers...
    I'm not naive enough to believe "god is helping us"... LMAO! :D
    How else would the blood be pumping through my veins right now? :confused:
     
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    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Less than 1% of our troops are rapists and murderers. You disgust me. Again.

    I feel pity for you then.

    I'm talking the "heart", the center for emotions and feelings. Technically the brain.
     
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  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #46
    The first person is questionably a murderrer at best. And I don't support him. I didn't support the death penalty for a person trying to make a positive difference.

    As for your second link, I'm not a religious extremest who wants to control peoples lives, so I don't consider abortion murder.

    Yawn...:cool:
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #47
    Right, you support murders by rallying behind them with support to overthrow the death penalty, yet on the other extreme, support the wholesale slaughtering of babies.

    So protect the rapists and murders from death, but go ahead and kill all the babies you like. Makes perfect sense to me :rolleyes:
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #48
    Isn't the death penalty another form of murder? :rolleyes:

    I forgot that you support any kind of murder as long as it is committed by government including the massacre of women and children.
     
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    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #49
    Nope. It's justice.

    What are you referring to?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #50
    You mean these women and children?

    I don't believe you ever answered the question of "why do you want the US to pull out of Iraq so terrorists can take over?" Remember the condition for knowing what my position was? How soon we forget ;)

    However, I have not forgotten who you support and start posts seeking sympathy for.

    Shameful.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #51
    Thank you for posting the link. The subsequent decisions by US Supreme court has proved that I was right that everyone should be threated according to the law. Bush is president and not a tyrant king or the head of military junta as he likes to believe or as you like to become a reality. ;)
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #52
    My pleasure. I think it's important to expose when people support the rights of terrorists, but not the rights of soldiers.

    There was no decision by the Supreme Court as Padilla was charged prior to the hearing. So it's dishonest to suggest that the Supreme Court made a decision to prove you were right. Egotistical maybe, but dishonest. However, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit did make a ruling and that was:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/09/AR2005090900772.html
    So your friend was treated according to the law. But, it's not like you've started a thread for an "accused" military soldier asking that he too be afforded rights. Far from it . In fact, when soldiers are accused, we typically find you the first to pile on, but when terrorists are accused?
     
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    #54
    See, any blanket statement like that is wrong, just as wrong as the ones many of the republicans on here make. The army didn't do that, 4 individuals did.

    It's just as wrong to criticize the entire army due to this incident as it is to claim that someone is heroic or honorable merely by virtue of joining the service. Being vulnerable to being brainwashed by a recruiter does not mean anything one way or the other about each and every individual that it happens to. Hell, it doesn't even mean they are necessarily patriotic... to many it's just a job to help them work through college.

    Might as well say you are ashamed of men, or humanity in general. It just doesn't make sense.

    -Michael
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #55
    Only it's not just 4 individuals. Shameful actions have been coming from the army since the day they started bombing Iraq. Even before that.. when the allowed these kinds of individuals to pass the "rigorous" qualifying tests for joining. What the hell is the army doing giving these kinds of people loaded guns in the first place?

    Can you look at human history or what humans have done to the planet and honestly tell me it makes you proud?

    We have so much knowledge.. so much potential... yet all through history we let our own selfishness and hatred blindly lead us to the continual destruction of ourselves, our peers and our planet.
     
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    mvandemar Notable Member

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    #56
    Still blanket statements. Sorry, can't agree with you. The same people who filled the Louvre with priceless works of art are not the same people who slaughtered millions in the holocaust, even though, yeah, both sets were classified as human. You need to learn to individualize. Any generalization like you are doing is damn near prejudice.

    -Michael
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #57
    I'm sure you'll burn a flag in their honor tomorrow. It's too bad you give terrorists more respect than soldiers. When soldiers get accused, you're the first to blast the forum with your own personal trial and conviction of them. But when a terrorist is arrested, you demand a full investigation, trial, and cloak yourself in the Constitution to demand their rights.

    Who is "our" and "we?" Considering your recent disclosure of support for Hamas, I'm quite certain I'm not part of the "we" in your brand of hatred.

    Still can't find another country to move to, huh?
     
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    #58
    You're right mevandemar... not all of them are bad natured people.. and they don't deserve to be generalized into that group even if a large number of them are. Still makes me sick that the army is letting these kinds of people in and handing them loaded weapons.... or even molding them into it...
     
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    #59
    I forgot what this thread was about half way through lol.
    Anyway im a christian but don't beleive we should be in war.
     
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    #60

    I share the same sentiment with Yo-yo. It might come across as a pesimistic view but it is a realistic view of the way the world turns. Greed has become the primary focus for most humans today, whatever happened to compassion, selflessness and good deed. Greed is the root of all evil, one need to look at the consequences of greed to understand the reasons behind the wars and destruction of our environment. Afterall do you all really, really believe that our government really cares about a bunch of people in Iraq? Just follow the money trail people to see the REAL reasons for the war or anything else for that matter.
     
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