Penalized for having external links at the bottom?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by bobpit, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. #1
    I wrote a biography in one of my pages. 1500 words. It is a quality article with no SEO techniques. I placed 3 very relevant external links to wikipedia (with PR of 4-5, ) and one internal link to another one of my articles that ranks very good (20th place in google). All of them with proper anchor text inside my text.

    The biography page ranked about 35 for keywords "person biography". Then I thought to add some more links directly to articles that also have biography of the same person. I wanted to increase relevancy of the article. So at the very bottom of the article I placed this:
    >>>>>>
    Related links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....
    http://web......html
    http://www.k......htm
    http://www.m......htm
    Person opinions (youtube)
    <<<<<<

    So I put 4 links without anchor text and a link to youtube with anchor text. All 5 links have a Page Rank of 4-6. I did minimal changes to the rest of the text (some indentation, some word changes).

    After Google indexed my newer version, the rank of the article went from 35 to 55 and it seems to keep loosing rank.

    Could it be that those links at the end make it appear like a small link farm? If I modify the links and put the appropriate anchor text, will I solve the problem? Or the problem comes from the links being too close together?
     
    bobpit, Feb 17, 2009 IP
  2. vagrant

    vagrant Peon

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    #2
    There is a good chance that now you link to those other articles you have made those articles more relevant than your own ? did you use rel=”nofollow” ?? on those links ?
     
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    jitendraag Notable Member

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    #3
    "keep loosing rank" is a normal thing unless you get getting links for the website. Irrespective of your linking pattern, if you just make a page and keep it like that, you can see that it will start to slide down in SERPs.
     
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    thetafferboy83 Active Member

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    Ranks 35 etc mean nothing. If you're currently there it's because you have almost no authority / link relevance at all. Therefore, even the slightest changes around the web result in your position moving - hence the bouncing up/down.
     
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    #5
    you should never link to someone else unless your using rel="nofollow

    all youve managed to do is take away the relevancy of your page, and since its a biography, maybe created a path for google to find some duplicate content!

    strongly avoid linking to other people without using nofollow
     
    macca81625, Feb 17, 2009 IP
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    That's not necessarily true, there is some theory that linking out helps your Google and SE rankings, cause Google sees you as a better quality site. Just my two cents.
     
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  7. SEOibiza

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    disagree totally.

    if the site you're linking to isn't a competitor and is relevant and good for your visitor, a link out to them will not hurt you.

    multiple links out, and especially more out to other sites than in to your own site is sometimes different.
     
    SEOibiza, Feb 17, 2009 IP
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    magda Notable Member

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    This is just nonsense.
    Linking is still at the centre of seo, and if nobody 'follows' links to anyone else, the whole system would grind to a halt.
    If the OP thinks these are relevant links there is absolutely no reason to nofollow them.
     
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  9. bobpit

    bobpit Member

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    Nobody answered my question. If a pattern like this can hurt my rankings:
    >>>>>>
    Related links:
    htp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....
    htp://web......html
    htp://www.k......htm
    htp://www.m......htm
    Person opinions (youtube)
    <<<<<<


    No.
    1) I linked to 5 sites and I lost 20 places. Does not add up.
    2) I had not checked, but those sites could have already been ahead of me anyway. Since they had much higher PR.

    The page was stable for about 10-15 days after I published it. Then lost rank overnight, when the newer version was indexed. Other parts of the site were not affected.

    1) That page went from 35 to 55 overnight.
    2) My other pages are stable.

    Maybe I added juice to other pages. But how can I loose relevancy if I point to relevant pages?

    Those other pages I linked too have a PR of 4-6, whereas mine was always 0.
     
    bobpit, Feb 17, 2009 IP