lol... that makes you one special human being that had not being fooled huh.. Tell us how many religion books or should I say God books have you read. Since you seams to know so much what the books are all about, and judging others a fool.. common tell us.. Tell us how did you know about that.. I really want to know..
I have read both versions of the bible, the quran, the bhagavad Gita, Talmud, vedas, the purvas, book of mormon to name but a few... which i dare is more than you read before coming to the conclusion that the one you settled on is the right one. By living on planet earth and reading the books which the religious claim are the word of god. The quran and the hadiths state that appostates should be murdered. You don't need to think about it for too long before realising that by telling people if they leave the religion they should be murdered you are going to effectively keep people members.
Cool... Then tell us which part from the books, say Bible & Quran that makes you think that we're a fool to believe it's the words of God.. tell us the exact verses so we can refer to, and tell us what you understood from it.. you don't have to do the whole book BTW just any verses that you comfortable with.. Similarly show us some light here oh wise man, as we are all still in the darkness.. Waiting anxiously...
It no particular verses that convinced me it was poorly written fiction, It was the whole thing. Just like there are no particular lines in the lord of the rings that would convince you that it's fiction, it's the whole book. The books do contain things that are particularly ridiculous, like the contradictions in the bible or the qurans claim that the sun sets in a muddy pool, but generally it's the culmination of it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam#Execution
If you really have read and understood it, you would have given one simple verses to support your claim.. as simple as that.. well... I guess you ain't that smart after all.. So you're using wiki as your source... brilliant.. really brilliant let me open up one chapter in Wiki telling about one wise man from DP named stOx who claim himself GOD.. maybe people will then worship you as the newly born GOD.. wiki oh wiki my source..
If you want to refute what i am saying, do it. But the tactic of continuously asking for clarification isn't going to get us anywhere, it's just an excuse for you to post without ever actually making any points.
It was not about me or anything else.. it was about you.. since you know so much.. why not sharing and explaining what you know.. unless you don't feel like sharing.. then what can I say.. you would then be better stay in your own world and not throwing ideas which you yourself can't prove it right.. that's a stupidity to me.. I on the other hand doesn't intend to create any mess.. I'm just a simple, small guy in this part of the world who always love finding the truth... and for a second I thought I had found one.. but I guess you're no better than a bouncing clown that I usually found over the net.. Cheers mate.. PS: I was not trying to refute what you're saying. I was just seeking some guidance from you.. a convincing one.. but seams like you had failed to do one simple request..
Finally, the man with brain that is better than billions others, is quoting me... I better be quiet then..
It's easy to get ride of this nonsense : kill all believers and ban religion, it's so boring! But in reality it's not possible, firstly most powerful people use religion to control others and secondly believers are quite numerous! One thing I'd like to push forward is to protect children from religious endoctrinment, to relate religious education by worshipping one god/one religion to having sex with children to teach them about sex education. It's the same thing, mental abuse. Religious education should be restricted to telling children there has been several religions and they are all made by man to fill in needs for answers. And most importantly, like you don't hire a pedophile to teach children about sex education, religious education shouldn't be made by a religious believer.
From google ; I was Reading last day that there's +100,000 Americans a year converting to Islam . They found Islam and it seemed like the logical route for them to take I search on youtube for Miracles of Quaran and I found this : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8552135092079886288
All this is happening 200 years after Darwin was born, and 150 after he published his work, you fools have NO EXCUSES, you are so weak in your mind, you deserve no respect for your ridiculous beliefs. Have fun with a nice video : http://www.megavideo.com/?v=XQEYA5L6
You do realize that Christians would reject Islam because of that statement alone, right? The idea to a Christian that saying God is only "one of the" prophets? Seriously, can you imagine a Christian trying to get you on their side by saying that Allah is a prophet only?
That means billions and growing, number of people are fools too huh.. I guess you are among few species that are so lucky with better brain.. lame
Why bother arguing between Christianity & Islam.. we should not be divided just because we have different believes in GOD. Personally to me, the most important thing is we believe in GOD. The creator of all. Use that as the basis of knowing each other similarities. Once we have lived in a peaceful manner, then start knowing what differentiate us and find the truth through learning & understanding both books. What ever the outcome that we may find, it's at the end, up to us to either believe or not. At the end of the day, it's between we individually and GOD. I always thinking this way. Just imagine, say there's a boy who lives in a small island in the middle of nowhere. There's no communication, news or what sort ever from the outside world. He only has a bible for him to read on his free time. He grow and become a man to believe what ever it's written in the book is all right. He at the end dies bringing his believe with him. So the question is, from Islamic perspective, will he be punished by Allah for not believing in his book. I personally don't think he will. In fact Allah is the most merciful and the most knowledgeable. He knows what is best for that boy. I believe Allah will award him heaven for what he believes as he believes in GOD the creator of all.. Similarly, same thing will happen if he only has Quran as his guidance.. The problem I foresee now happening is, some of us, regardless whether a Muslim or Christian refuse to take a moment reading and understanding the book that other people believes in, rather condemning each others. Why not we stop arguing, start learning each others believe, take our similarities and put aside our differences. Don't let our self been fooled by our media, instead, go and read the books & learn from the people who is best to describe what is written. GOD will bring the light to us who is willing to find the truth. Otherwise you will be forever live in the darkness. Cheers,
A growing number of people are obese, does it means it's the way to go? Do you like sheeps? I tell you, why it is growing, because children worldwide are not protected from religious mental abuse, because believing in what you're told requires the less intellect possible, it isn't hard to do at all, and because religious families will have more children, for a number of fucked up reasons. That's why it's important to protect children from the religion of their families, but that's not happening anywhere, not in advanced countries and even less in dark ages countries. So yes, there will be more and more believers, but that only means there will be more and more stupid people, it says nothing about them being right or wrong.
I guess these reverts to Islam also fall into a similar category. It's only spreading because muslims either use the sword to spread it or brainwash their kids.
Some idiot guys in the white house ordered the killings in Iraq which at the end admitted that they did mistake. So should we follow this small number of people who are proven to be morons.. similarly goes to your case.. Show us some scientific proof to your claim.. otherwise that is just full of craps.. I've seen so many good people regardless of their religion who have been brought up in a very religious family. So can I say you're wrong.. I think you have watched too much TV.. I've been in the print & electronic media, and I surely knows how to shape people's mind simply through one 30 second ads..
some people call a person who make a lame statement, an uneducated person. I rather call him stupid...
Honestly my post has nothing to do with what you are saying here, whether God is merciful or throws people into a fiery lake for getting a tattoo doesn't really matter to me. My post was about the approach. Saying, "Mohammed even said your God is a great prophet" is not the way to get people on your side. I am not a Christian, but I know that saying their God isn't a God isn't the way to get them to pay attention to what I say in any positive way. It will create a feeling of immediate enmity. It was a bit of advice, you can reject it if you wish.