You're completely wrong. The people who buy TV sets don't buy them to see ads, but still there are a lot of commercials on TV and there is a reason behind ... ... the reason is that yes, the people watch these ads even if usually people don't like ads. The same with newsletters and any other type of advertising Wrong again. If you're looking for "something" and while reading a newsletter you see 2 ads for "another thing" and a third ad for "your something", will you click on the first 2 ads, or on the third ad? If there are 2 crap ads that don't grab anyone's attention and a professional and attractive third ad, which ad do you think that will be clicked on? And so on ... in the real world, the things are not only black or white. And ezine advertising is part of the real world
I agree with JoyGoRound, as I too subscribe to a few newletters and yahoogroups. However, I've signed up for a few others that I've eventually either spammed or opted back out of due to excessive spam. Its a FINE line IMHO. I'd not say COMPLETELY wrong... if they were completely wrong then they would break up movies in the theater with ads and we'd not bother with things like HBO and Showtime. I watch ads on TV because that's the ONLY way I can watch American Idol. I read my newsletters online with a few text ads because that's the ONLY way a few of them get sent out. If I had my choice the world would be in the Star Trek Utopia with no commercials and a 0% unemployment rate... but I don't so I suffer through the ads people toss at me (and hope people suffer through the ads I toss at them)
Yup. And the more ads a newsletter has, the higher the odds go up in just about all readers not reading any of them. That's just common sense. But I keep forgetting where I am: The land of the noobs. There is a BIG difference between WATCHING and READING. Sitting on the couch like a slug on a log takes no effort. Reading through those ads does. Again, common sense that even I knew even when I use to be inexperienced at advertising.
I think you are talking about an e-zine ad. They do work. I have had success with them. Sometimes you have to change your wording but they can work quite well depending on what your marketing. as with everything do your research
It seems that you forgot my first reply to you. I quote: "If you want to buy classified ads ... don't buy such ads in newsletters that publish more than 4-5 ads per issue. Otherwise, if your ad is inside a sea of ads, you have small chances to get a good result." Right, the land of the noobs I wonder if you ever READ a newspaper (the offline version of a newsletter). Did you see there ads? All the advertisers are idiots? These ads are there and will be there because people READ them and TAKE ACTION, even if you like it or not. You were talking about common sense ... You misunderstood something. Movies in the theater don't have ads because you PAID your ticket at the right price so that to watch THAT MOVIE. When there will be less people paying their ticket, then the price of a ticket may be lowered but in exchange I'm sure that you will start seeing ads also there. When you subscribe to a newsletter, usually you don't pay anything and that's a HUGE difference. You "pay" by accepting to receive a FREE newsletter that contains ads. Some people will not read the ads, others are doing it. Some ads are crap and no one read them. Other ads are so good that they don't look like ads. Reader's discomfort disappears and the ad works. Whether you like or not ads in newsletters or ads in any other place, they still are there and are there because they WORK for advertisers.
Yes, I have read the ads in newspapers. And??? We are talking about online. It is a different breed entirely. Hello??? It is harder to get their attention. And, as we have already both said, if a newsletter has multiple ads in it.... In addition, if an advertiser pays more to have his ads in it because it has, say, 5,000 readers when in actuality it has only half that due to many of them no longer opening the mail, his money is lost. And although print advertising does work, duh, like I said before, there is a BIG difference between WATCHING and READING. Sitting on the couch like a slug on a log takes no effort. Reading through those ads does. Yup, I was and I am still talking about common sense here, in the land of the noobs.
This is the main weapon of affiliate .It do works but to make it work you have to be very careful so that you may not end up in becoming a spammer .
You getting your cable for free I take it? I understand WHY there is adverts all over the place. I was just making the point that someone was not completely wrong
Are you from this planet or you've just landed? All advertising is the same as described above and works fine. When you buy a classified ad in a newspaper that has a subscribers base of 100K, do you think that 100K will read your ad? You're funny ... not even half of them will read your ad but the advertising still works. Let's close this because it doesn't have any sense. You're right, ezine advertising doesn't work, all ezine advertisers and especially the successful ones are idiots. Happy? No, I'm paying a insignificant fee (in comparison with a theater ticket or in comparison with the copyright fees that have to be paid) and that's why the programs contain ADS! You still didn't get it, did you?
I got it, though I'm unsure if you do. I watch TV for the programs, not for the ads. Yeah, I sit through them, it's part of the price... but put too many on any show and I'm flipping channels. Put too many ads in a mailing list and I'm hitting the spam button.
1) You're funny. Of course you watch TV programs for programs, not for the ads. 99% of the people are doing it the same However, commercials work fine and advertisers buy ad space for a reason 2) Too many ads is annoying anyone. Read once again my previous posts. I stated it once, then I stated it twice for perry321 and no problem, I can quote it again for you: "If you want to buy classified ads ... don't buy such ads in newsletters that publish more than 4-5 ads per issue. Otherwise, if your ad is inside a sea of ads, you have small chances to get a good result." 3) If you subscribe to a newsletter and then hit the spam button because you don't like the content, that's not a responsible behavior and looks like an action of a person who doesn't understand what spam is and what opt-in means. You're free to unsubscribe at anytime and nobody forced you to subscribe to that newsletter. Hit the spam button only when you're not unsubscribed despite the fact that you requested it. Hitting the spam button is hurting the publisher and his domain name may become soon blacklisted. It's like going to a TV station and breaking the windows because you didn't like a certain program you asked for. Don't tell me now that there is a difference between the above two situations. Yes, there are more differences and one of them is that you were paying a certain amount the money to the TV station (via the cable company), but you didn't pay anything to the publisher. You didn't pay anything to the publisher but you're ready to hurt him when you don't like what he is sending. That's a big NO-NO.
You don't need too. You said perry321 was "completely wrong" and I was just pointing out that Perry321 was in fact just not completely right. Other then that, we are both pretty much saying the same thing...I was just picking on that one line.
ezine ads, no offense, but since for the most part you don't know what you are talking about, and you are making stuff up along the way, and putting words in my mouth to somehow make yourself look better on a board, which is pretty childish in itself, you should change your board name. A perfect example on why this place is the land of the noobs. Sorry. I for one will say let's get this thread back on track, and I can only hope no other noob starts spouting nonsense and assumptions.
I had a good laugh while reading this non-sense It's typical for newbies who hide themselves because they are afraid to show what they are actually doing, while in the same time try to explain everyone how great they are. BTW, why are you hiding? Show a signature so that everyone to see your expertise. Don't you have any but you think that you're good at anything? I hope that's not true. I hope you're an expert or a guru in ezine advertising
Opt-in email marketing services work well if you offer some kind of value to your valuable list. There are many services online to assist you with managing email marketing campaigns. I recommend email marketing software from Interspire. They also have hosted free email marketing.
Really? That "free" email marketing service includes in fact a 30-day free trial period when you can send maximum 100 emails. Then if you want to continue, you have to pay. Not quite free P.S. "They"? You posted this ad in 5 different threads taking care each time of keywords so that to be good for SEO. When someone really recommends someone else, he doesn't care about SEO and keywords (see the anchor text)
Now now, don't throw a little hissey fit. If you are going to spout off nonsense and noobie BS, expect to get called out on it. Now, go sit in front of your tv, watch a few commercials, read a few ads in the paper, while thinking of a different board name to use.
Why are you afraid to show your expertise? I'm looking forward to learning more from you Or you're just a troll?
Yes, I've heard of GPTR's... but disagree that they are "just like" credit-based safelists. Not all-- because the motivation of the recipients is completely different. As for Auto-submitters: They only work with the old standard safelists, not the credit-based safelists, which have built-in pre-cautions that don't allow auto-submission. But to say you never get any response from Creditbased safelists is not only not fair, it's not true. I get responses every day... sign-ups, sales... whatever I want. So you're going to have a tough time convincing me they don't work. Half the trouble with those first using CBSL is understanding the audience. You don't send long, rambling emails to a safelist-- they WILL be ignored. And, frankly, probably won't even get the traffic from the click-link because most marketers that belong to one safelist, also belong to about 20-25 others. (I'm up to about 32, at last count.) Going through that much mail in a short time will reduce anyone's attention span. But I do notice those that are presented properly. Mo
Thank you, Aborton... And, yes, I also agree with you-- use every type of marketing you can. A good marketer should be able to use any tool-- which ones should depend on the product. Mo