How dumb was Ron Paul?

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What exactly is Ron Paul?

  1. Wrong

    1 vote(s)
    12.5%
  2. Really wrong

    2 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Anti-American

    2 vote(s)
    25.0%
  4. Moonbat

    3 vote(s)
    37.5%
  1. #1
    When he kept going on and on about the economy during the Republican Primary. I mean, what an idiot!!

    Was he wrong, really wrong, anti-American, or a moonbat?

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    staffsergeantpeterson Member

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    Ron Paul is a GENIOUS! Checkout ChuckyPita . COM

    Everyone knows that Ron Paul should've been elected. Just goes to show that people that are honest and true get shunned by the Government Con artists such as the "Federal Reserve" <<<<---- Private bank Im going to start my own ban called Federal Money Printer
     
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    Firegirl Peon

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    Yeeeaaaaa, I have to say your poll is biased. You didn't give any choices for people that actually like him. Ron Paul is probably one of the few honest politicians left in the WORLD. I don't agree with everything he has to say, but I really do think the guy is in it because he has the country's best interests at heart.
     
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    staffsergeantpeterson Member

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    Another Ron Paul Fan... Firegirl You just don't know it yet but you already love RP
     
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  5. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #5
    :p:D Are you giving me a hard time again? You know I'm a fellow "anti-american".
     
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    #6
    He's a conspiracy nut and isolationist that seems to attract US haters. But he does understand the economy. But that doesn't mean his conclusions or proposed solutions are right.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    lolz!!! conpirazies!!

    How could he understand the economy if his solutions aren't right? His understanding comes from a particular perspective most don't even recognize. You're basically acknowledging he is right about what the problem is but you think the solution - which is the absence of the problem - is radically different than the understanding.
     
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    Ron Paul was the only one who could save your fucked up country. Instead you morans have elected an antichrist. Good luck with that!

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    #9
    A lot of people understand the economy and still have completely different, even diametrically opposed views on what actions should be taken or how things should be structured. I'm sure there are nobel laureates in economics who disagree fundamentally on facets of the economy or on the overall structure.

    This seems to be a characteristic of complex systems with regards to how humans interpret or try to influence them; there can be many competing philosophies that all come from a place of understanding of how the current system works, but can reach wrong conclusions of how to manipulate or modify the current system. Sometimes even more than one philosophy is not wrong.

    For example, I think Paul would like to get rid of the central bank. But how would the free market have reacted after 911 if it was completely up to the market? Would the market have gotten over their panic and decided to keep lending and investing if the Fed had not pumped the system full of money?

    It's easy to criticize and spend your life poking holes in the current system but it doesn't mean that your philosophy, if implemented, would not have its own flaws, that could possibly be even worse.

    The Austrians seem to have come to define themselves by their opposition to the Keynesians. It seems to be a bit analogous to the intelligent design/creationist group versus evolutionists, where the core of the creationists' manifesto seems to be not much more than 'evolution is flawed'. No shit? Isn't any complex system flawed? (a theory could be considered a system of sorts)
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    How do you view his understanding as being correct? Where do the similarities begin?
     
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    The man is a moonbat. The people who think he is Jesus-Light are moonbats. The world is full of damn moonbats.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    What about the people who think Obama is Jesus? What are they?
     
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    His criticisms about our willingness to take on debt are needed. Actually I think we need people like Paul to bitch about things. If he bitches about everything there's bound to be some good stuff in there. The fact that his main economic advisor(I think?), Schiff, knew what was happening in the markets before most people is undeniable. Paul and his crew should be listened to on the economy, but it doesn't mean that just because they are right about some things that their entire philosophy has been validated.

    My main source of opposition to Paul is not on the economic front but on the foreign policy front.

    Also, his supporters seem arrogant, condescending and sometimes downright thuggish in their support for him. That's turned me off a bit, which maybe is my fault since I shouldn't let the actions of others dictate what I feel about him.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    I can understand, at least you're open to criticism. I haven't and won't argue deep economic theory on here for the sole purpose that I admittedly don't fully grasp either (or all) systems.
     
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    I thought those were the people he was referring to :confused: ;)

    BTW Nate, that avatar just about sums it up as far as Obama goes.
     
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    They are also moonbats.
     
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    I love giving you a hard time :).

    You seem to enjoy playing devli's advocate!
     
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    His solutions are right. The problem is society shoves ideas in our heads and the ignorant citizens bite on it. They just don't know any better. They are all poisoned with the "If it doesn't immediately affect me then I don't care - As long as I can have a coke and a big mac - Gotta love the american dream"

    His ideas are different but are logical. People are scared of change.... IF 911 was an inside job (Which it was) then the tactic worked. Strike fear into the lives of your citizens and they will let government do what ever they want for thier own safety....

    Holy Crap I hate America too.... Can I buy won of the island in fiji and live off the land?
     
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    OK, how would Great Lord Paul have fixed the economy? What would be have done? :p The insistence that he is some genius who could have fixed the world is easy believe, seeing as no one in their right mind would ever vote him into the White House.
     
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