How to spam without getting into trouble

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by cranberry, Jun 29, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi,
    we have a successful internet business with 16,000 email addresses. We are opening up a new internet site and would like to 'spam' the list that we have. Is there a way to do this without getting our VPS and ip address into 'trouble'?? What is the best way to go about doing this?

    thank you!
     
    cranberry, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  2. Tyler Banfield

    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Did you compile the list yourself or buy it from someone else?
     
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  3. Nintendo

    Nintendo ♬ King of da Wackos ♬

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    Oh gees...two spammer want-to-bees in six hours!!!! Where are you spammers comming from!!! :D:D

    Amit you got some SPAM business!!!
     
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  4. cranberry

    cranberry Peon

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    No, we didn't buy the list. These are email addresses of our customers over the past five years.
     
    cranberry, Jun 29, 2006 IP
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    #5
    I would guess that close to half the addresses are going to be bad if they are that old. You will get definitely have issues if you a high percentage of your addresses bounce, especially to some of the bigger domains (yahoo.com, etc.)

    If they get too many bad emails from the same IP, that IP will be marked as bulk and every email you send to yahoo will go to the bulk folder...

    If you've never sent a mailing to this customer list, you have a tough road ahead.

    You should also look into getting on aol's whitelist.

    Good luck.
     
    woodside, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  6. amitpatel_3001

    amitpatel_3001 Results Follow Patience

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    You can SPAM yahoo and heard Myspace is new SPAM World :)
    did you every try these?
     
    amitpatel_3001, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  7. cranberry

    cranberry Peon

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    Will the ip address that is hosting the website get in 'trouble' or will the ip address of the server that sends the mass email get into 'trouble'? Meaning, if we send the mass email from a different server/host will we be able to protect out VPS?

    Our main consideration right now is protecting the two ip addresses of our VPS. We have a quite a few sites on it right now and we don't want to take any chance that we might get blacklisted.
     
    cranberry, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  8. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    If you have not been emailing your customers on a regular basis, it is going to be hard for you to all of a sudden email them.
    Most will have long forgot they bought from you, etc and will scream spam!
    Most others will just delete.

    Now, if you email them, do not sell them something on the first email.
    Just explain why they are getting the email, who you are, etc.
    And for heaven's sake, have an opt-out email address or url so those who do not want more email from you can opt=out never to receive stuff from you.

    I would email x-amount per day for say 30 days or so.
     
    iowadawg, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  9. cranberry

    cranberry Peon

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    Thanks IowaDawg. However, we weren't really planning on letting the people on the list know that the two sites are connected in any way.

    I'm kinda surprised that this issue hasn't been addressed before. Aren't there businesses out there with email lists that have more than one business that 'share' email addresses between the two businesses?
     
    cranberry, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  10. nvidura

    nvidura Well-Known Member

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    Administrator, cant you trace this psycho? Pity on those 16,000 customers.
     
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    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    When one business has an email function, they clearly state that emails may be sent from the other company.

    It has to be a clear statement when it comes to using a customer's email address.
    If you did not have such a statement that emails will be shared, etc...then you could be open to spam charges.
     
    iowadawg, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  12. Tyler Banfield

    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't consider it spam then. If you have done business with these people in the past, then all you're doing is informing them that you have a new web site available. 16,000 is a lot though, so you might want to spread out when you send the emails.
     
    Tyler Banfield, Jun 29, 2006 IP
  13. Tyler Banfield

    Tyler Banfield Well-Known Member

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    That's not as bad as the lists that are being sold on DP with 450,000 e-mail addresses of college students.
     
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  14. Cheap SEO Services

    Cheap SEO Services <------DoFollow Backlinks

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    You should give them all an option to remain a subscriber like "reply with "unsubscribe" in the subject line if you prefer not to receive emails from us".

    Wait two weeks and then hit it.
     
    Cheap SEO Services, Jun 29, 2006 IP
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    JasMate Active Member

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    In my opinion if these have been customers you should be fine. Just make sure to state that you are from the other business so they don't get confused and make sure they can unsubscribe easily.
     
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  16. iowadawg

    iowadawg Prominent Member

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    #16
    Say anything nice in a thread, please do not say anything.
    Because if you had actually read and comprehended the OP, you would have found out, like everyone else, that this is a company with their own customer list.
    They are not selling this list, they want ideas on how to use this list.
     
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  17. cranberry

    cranberry Peon

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    Thanks IowaDawg. I didn't appreciate being called a psycho, but didn't want to start up with nvidura in this thread.

    Thank you all for your replies and suggestions.
     
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    frankcow Well-Known Member

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    Here's an idea: send an email to the contacts from your existing business. In it, mention the other business as a partner, and give some incentive to check it out

    completely legal
     
    frankcow, Jun 30, 2006 IP