I just don't get DMOZ

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by AllMyForums, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. #1
    I think the site has zero design elements and I don't understand how its beneficial in any way.

    can someone explain this to me?
     
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  2. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #2
    No, not really. The editors claim it's not a listing server, an SEO tool, or what have you, and most non-editors that have actually looked into it will agree.

    Though, its still on the list of free directories, so if you submit to them, submit to the ODP while you are at it. It'll certainly not hurt, but how much it'll help is a matter of opinion.
     
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    syted Notable Member

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    #3
    OK the design is simple and easy to read with no distractions. It's got loads of content which is useful and current.
     
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  4. shailendra

    shailendra Peon

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    I agree...it is not made to give users an aesthetic view but it is a repository of quality information which is quite beneficial for the user.
     
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  5. EveryQuery

    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Directories (and search engines as well) usually have fairly simple designs. After, people do not visit the ODP (or Google) to be amazed by awesome graphics or nifty flash elements. They simply want information...as fast as possible. And in that department, the ODP succeeds.
     
    EveryQuery, Feb 10, 2009 IP
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    scottgrace25 Peon

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    They screen their submissions really well. It's not just skimmed over so it's supposed to be a lot better in that regard. It's a not-for-profit directory so they try to put nothing but the best of sites on there and be fair about it. It think that is the difference.
     
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  7. Going Green

    Going Green Active Member

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    And it is incredibly difficult to either becoem an Editor or even to get your site listed.

    I think it would be better to do away with all of the Volunteer editors ( no offense to all you volunteers) and make it a profit business by charging for a review like Yahoo does, cause it is not that Open a Directory in all Reality.
     
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  8. makrhod

    makrhod Peon

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    #8
    Not at all.
    As I have explained in one of your other threads, many people are accepted every day, including people from different countries, of all ages, with the full range of educational/work backgrounds.
    The fact that you have had multiple rejections suggests that either you are not attending to the matters raised in the feedback you have received each time, or that you are failing to complete the form honestly and/or carefully enough.
    That is not the fault of the system. ;)
     
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  9. trustnobodynever

    trustnobodynever Peon

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    #9
    if he's getting blank emails ( or automatically send ones like I got ... ) hard to believe he can learn something :)
     
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  10. EveryQuery

    EveryQuery Well-Known Member

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    #10
    I haven't tried to submit a site to DMOZ in years because it seems like it's mostly a crap shoot whether someone ever looks at it (after all, it's just a suggestion). I wish more people would stop spending so much time worrying about trying to get into DMOZ. Some of you think all troubles in life will be solved with a single directory listing. People think it's some sort of "elite club" and you just won't ever be "cool" until you are listed.

    That being said, I can kind of agree with you on the editor application process. I applied to become an editor several weeks back (on a whim while perusing the directory) and am a bit surprised that I have not heard anything back from them yet..whether accepted or rejected. Because if it takes a month or longer to receive a editor application review and you are rejected a couple times, as seems to be the case with most people, it would take a very long time to become an editor. No doubt that would discourage many well-intentioned people from even trying to join.
     
    EveryQuery, Feb 22, 2009 IP
  11. makrhod

    makrhod Peon

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    #11
    There is no such thing as a blank email. Every applicant receives feedback, and it is hoped that those who are unsuccessful will use that advice to prepare a more acceptable application. Some do, some don't.

    Many applications are reviewed the same day, even more within a few days, but some take a few weeks for review. It is extremely rare for an application to wait more than that.
    Like all other editing activities, reviewing the many hundreds of editor applications each week is done by volunteers (in this case, a very small number of meta editors and catmods), so there are no set time frames.

    However, if you have not heard about your editor application after 14 days from the time you submitted it, you are most welcome to enquire about it in this Resource-Zone forum (but please read the instructions for posting first). :)
     
    makrhod, Feb 23, 2009 IP
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    sumit1710 Peon

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    #12
    Getting into DMOz is dream for me......
    They scrutinize every listing deeply and PR juice
    is very high if you can get listing its very good.
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    I wish my dreams were so simple. :D

    Just pay $100 in scriptlance and your wish can come true. ;)
     
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  14. trustnobodynever

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    so cheap ? cant be true ! :eek:

    >>> I`ve look again to the email's from odp , there are two things : 1. I`m blind and totally retard and I cant read ( I know my grammar when I speack is not so good ! ) , 2. someone there its seems do not even bother to read what I write and is using again copy/paste to post on forums .

    Shall I forward you the email with the rejection to show me please where's this things which you claiming to be ? I`m sorry but I cant share the password from email on public because there I have few things which need to keep them private . How in the name of god can you tell me '' every application receive an feedback when on this email IS NOTHING WRITE? just few phrases pre-made copied from the guidelines which is always break by the editors there? I cant post screen shots because will be deleted like last screen was deleted there when I posted it ...


    Thanks again for the warnings which will come :D , it's seems some mods there love to give warnings when someone is posting on this subforum and when its saying something about ODP .
     
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    #15
    Let me just get this staright.
    The email which rejected you had nothing on it, it was blank
    BUT
    it did have some copied phrases from the guidelines on it

    Hmmmm noty quite what i would call blank.

    If you can't read the bits of the guidelines that you were pointed to and understand how that applies to your application, how do you think you can read the guidelines and apply them to sites that you have found or which have been submitted?

    Do you want us to give you every clue about why your application was rejected? Perhaps you want us to suggest what you should write for your next one?
     
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  16. trustnobodynever

    trustnobodynever Peon

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    Well no :) actually next one will not be done ( at least not by me and not in this life - i`m pretty sure about this ! ) , NONE of the bits from the guidelines are apply on there since :
    * all fields was filled there on the application
    * the spelling and grammar was checked ! ( actually at the time when I filled the application I had online on messenger one of my friends who's English and he told me since than then i`m crazy if i`m thinking will be there a place for me )
    * urls provided on the application : 1 of them is one of my crap sites made just for test the domain is used to have most of the scripts which I`m testing lol , second link is one of biggest casual games from internet ( its already listed on directory in few places ... )
    * YOU or anyone else CANT know never which sites i`m affiliated with them NEVER :) on this field I filled other site ( the article directory from my signature :p ) ...
    * the titles and descriptions ... DIDN'T contain any advertising text , didn't had any keyword rich , just an abstract description and the name of the sites !
    * well about the self promotion thing from the email is quite retarded if you are asking me , since you guys asking peoples '' which sites you are affiliated with '' do you expect to have them listed all there ? to tell to peoples they wanna promote their own sites ? ALL editors I`m sure do this , actually I found myself LOADS of spam sites on directory .

    This was the copy / paste ( PRE-made email from the reject of application ) there WASN'T any review ! the point from up are the answers only from the email which I got from ODP ! , the reject email come after exactly 73 minutes since was submitted !

    So ... ODP email which I got with the reject thing is totally general and NOT APPLY to the particular application ! NONE of the points cant be correct ! this emails was send out automatically ~! and NONE READ IT !

    nb: I read the guidelines ( from there I know for example the sites which promote illegal p0rnography arent accepted on directory , from there I know for example sites who promote MLM/ get rich schemes aren't also accepted ~! , same with redirect sites , same with the content ( yes I saw one site there on odp which is cite 2 articles from other site , NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS on the site since was created on 2007 ! web.archive and google cache and register records are same since start ! cant be edited by the editors from ODP . , same I saw one site which is using one php script to show content from another site , even the pictures are watermark from the original site , this one is same not changed since was build and is listed on 3 category on the directory )
    And the list can continue with the wrong things from the guidelines which you guys pretend to follow , same guidelines which I read them ( actually I have them saved on offline file too lol )
     
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  17. makrhod

    makrhod Peon

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    Well there's the problem.
    A volunteer took the time to review your application and send you feedback with advice on how to improve your chances of being accepted, but you decided to ignore that advice.
    What more can we do to help?
    Those who do read and accept the feedback are often successful. Those who do not, are not. Duh.
     
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  18. trustnobodynever

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    :D Shall I said again ? This email do not have any feedback ! the feedback field is blank ! This email is JUST automatically send out email with same content each time . I think I mentioned like a week ago , I asked one of my remote hands work boys to fill an application in same way like I do , he got the rejection email within 84 minutes , same content , same text , and almost same time frame of emails .
     
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    #19
    As I said you want us to do through your application point by poiunt telling you exactly where you went wrong, if we do that we might as well write the next one ourselves.

    Re-read my last post about if you can't read those pointers and see how they apply, because if you can't do that then we don't want editors who can't see where guidelines apply and they have missed it.

    And if that means the sort of vitriol you now want to throw, better that than the directory is subjected to editors who can't see where the guidelines apply.
     
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  20. trustnobodynever

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    even with the risk to have again one more warning because I repeat one post .... NONE of the points from the automatically email apply on this application ! Even if I`m take them all ( not like particular points wrong ) - like context , this points are contradictory and make sense only when they are threat on particular sub points . Funny is peoples ( at least the ones who bothered to read this replies ... ) think I really wanted to be an editor there , trust me I filled the form with maximum responsibility and decency , but not even a second I tough this can be true and I didn't wanted even a second to spend my time doing volunteer work there , this application was made just to '' check what's with this feature '' nothing more and nothing less .
    Thanks for the tips :)
     
    trustnobodynever, Feb 23, 2009 IP