Yo mama is so illegal ...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by new, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. muncle

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  2. amanamission

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    #42
    Israel has just over 7,000,000 citizens, of which about 20% are Arabs.
    The West Bank has about 2 million and Gaza has 1.4 million. Estimates are that up to 800,00 Palestinian refugees would be affected by a law of return giving full rights of citizenship to Arabs who have had to flee Israel due to the establishment of the Zionist state.

    If all these individuals in the region were given an equal vote, they would represent a near-majority or even a majority.

    Of course, Israeli partisans will dispute this map, claiming for instance that since there was no independent Palestinian state (it was under Ottoman and then British control) that this land was never Palestinian. Some Zionists here have gone so far as to claim these people do not exist.

    Of course, these are the people who lived there, had homes, and built the colonial economy which has always been controlled by outsiders.

    Again, the right to autonomy in the West Bank and Gaza does more for Israel than Palestinians...which is why I support a fully secular and non-preferential state.
     
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    #43
    Well so far I am definately backing the Palestinian side on this, that map has floored me. I have been aware, and even disgusted, by Israels actions over the last couple of years in particular, but I had no idea they were as bad as they quite obviously seem.

    To be fair tho, is there any Israeli around that would like to present a reason for this obvious genocide?
    If so, can you explain any valid reasons for stealing the extra lands?

    Was a little confused on this. I take it that means around 5.5 million Jews & 3.4 million Palestinians?

    BTW Muncle, that link in pictures is a very sad indictment. Why can't they see what they have become? It's so fxxxxxg sad. God's people indeed!
     
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  4. amanamission

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    #44
    Well, the population of "Israel proper" (ruled by zioinists) has 7m+ people.
    Of these people, 18-20% are "Israeli Arabs"-Palestinians living in Israeli territory This is about 1.3-1.5 million. These folks are marginalized citizens in many ways, but live in Israel and are generally integrated. Many of these are the "demonstrators" who gather to protest Israeli injustice against their cousins.

    The West Bank-the land between Jordan and Jerusalem-is home to 2 million Palestinians and an increasing number of Israelis settling there in contravention of international laws.

    Gaza is the strip between Israel and Eqypt, home to 1.5 million or so Palestinans.

    The Palestinians who live in the occupied territories are technically autonomous due to earlier agreements, and governed by local parties-Hezbollah, Fatah, and Hamas.

    If all these territories were combined with Israel to form a new coalition government, the total would be about 10.5 million, of which roughly half would be Jewish, and half Arab.
     
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  5. imad

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    #45
    you forgot so many Palestinians who live in refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, since 1948 till now, as a result of the illegal creatin of Israel, of those so many have managed to educate themselves, work, and get decent houses outside the camp, but still many can't have the same chance to get education, or good jobs, and therefore they still live in these camps that developed from tents like these:

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    to simi-houses now like these:

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    it's worth to mention that also many of West Bank and Gaza Strip residence are also refugees who live in refugee camps since 1948 till now.

    in addition also to so many Palestinians living in some other Arabian countries, and in Latin America, Europe, Australia, whom all, have the right of return.
     
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    Well, I mentioned it here but thank you for mentioning it again. These people should also be allowed to return and vote...and, really, paid reparations.
     
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    #47
    right, sorry I did not notice, they are much more than 800,000 now.
     
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    #48
    True, but not all would choose to return if given the chance.

    At any rate, if the area were unified under an "olive branch" coalition government, the Palestinian people would have a slight majority...until more Jews arrived. At some point, immigration from both sides will probably be restricted.
     
    amanamission, Feb 4, 2009 IP