Obama Breaks 1st Promise (not even in office for a month yet)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by simplyg123, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. #1
    During Obamas campaign he promised the people (thats you and I), he would make government more open and accountable.

    Quoting Obama

    Obama's campaign Web site states.

    Well, maybe he plans on starting that later, because the first bill he passed did not receive the promised treatment.

    Im sure this is just the first of many to come.

    Be sure to read the full article below

    Source http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...five-days-of-public-comment-before-signing-b/
     
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  2. drmike

    drmike Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious... do we need to start a big debate on the terrible things Bush mad legal with his shiesty titled "Patriot Act". Republican supporters are all the same and can be spotted a mile away....

    A republican politician can do something that is 10 out of 10 on the terrible scale, and all is well and fine, he did the right thing...

    Then a democratic politician does something similar but only a 1 out of 10 on the terrible scale and the republicans cry like a bunch of hungry babies.

    It is hilarious... do you sign up to get memos on what to say and how to act... or are you all seriously brainwashed to act the same way and say the same things?
     
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  3. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    So are you comparing Obama to Bush? Thought he was all about change? Im glad you notice the "similar" traits. Seems you and his other supporters were the ones brainwashed by buying his crap.
     
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    drmike Well-Known Member

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    I am not brainwashed into buying anything... I am inteligent enough to know that politicans lie... it comes with the job... I am sorry if you live in a bubble... but outside of your bubble, here in the real world... politicans lie, most of them on a daily basis. Our job as citizens is to decide who is going to lie the least, and who is going to lie about the least important things, and elect them.

    Bush likely lied more than any world leader in history. He lied about damn near everything, including things that have lead to thousands of US soldiers, and hundreds of thousands of people around the world being needlesly killed. Bush lied about things that now make it possible for companies and the government to spy on you and every single thing that you do... privacy, thanks to Bush and his lies, no longer exists. It is still a word, and it still gets tossed around, but it is now a fairy tale.

    When Obama starts telling lies that take away peoples freedom, peoples privacy, and peoples lives, then I might get a little irritated... for now... I think we can hold off on the comparissions of Bush to Obama... unless of course you want to start comparing pop rocks to nuclear bombs... because in all honesty... thats what you are doing.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    This isnt about Bush, its no secret he wasn't the greatest president, this is about Obama. The man claiming change, the man that says he's "different".

    I realize politicians lie, but when one (Obama), bases his entire campaign on being different, and offering change, thats a damn big deal in my opinion, When he starts out on the exact same path as the rest.
     
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    lightless Notable Member

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    I am sure that you will have many chances to say "See, I told you" during Obama's presidency.

    Anyway promises are cheap and oft broken, actions are what really count.
     
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    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    I would agree in any other case, but when it comes to Barack "change" Obama, I would expect a change. I would expect him to surpass the former liers, and broken promisers. His whole campaign was about change, yet all im seeing is more of the same..
     
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    falguni1 Peon

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    trust him he is a good person.
     
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    drmike Well-Known Member

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    Do you pay attention to politics or just grab the headlines and rush over to DP and all other forums you participate on to badmouth people you don't like? Barrack is change! He is doing things completely different.. you are loosing your mind over 1 lie... try to figure out how many lies Bush told in a month and then compare it to Obama's 1 and you be able to see change.

    Again, while I don't think politicians should lie... it is what they do, you need to accept it. Maybe ocne you finish high school you will realize why politicians need to lie... but until then here is a metaphor you might understand.

    Asking a politician to not lie is like asking Donald Trump to not make money. Its just not something that is possible.
     
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    bogart Notable Member

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    President Obama on his first day in office, he imposed perhaps the strictest ethics rules of any modern president.

    His standards didn't last long:

    The exceptions that went unmentioned now include a pair of cabinet nominees who did not pay all of their taxes. Then there is the lobbyist for a military contractor who is now slated to become the No. 2 official in the Pentagon. And there are the others brought into government from the influence industry even if not formally registered as lobbyists.

    President Obama “absolutely” standing behind former Senator Tom Daschle, his nominee for health and human services secretary. Mr. Daschle, said he had “no excuse” and wanted to “deeply apologize” for his failure to pay $128,000 in federal taxes.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/03/us/politics/03lobby.html?_r=1&hp
     
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    I agree. But I knew he wouldn't keep his promises.
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    I don't understand you point. You don't think the guy who is going to be in charge of the Treasury of the United States including the IRs can make an honest mistake? Really, it was not his mistake, it that stupid box that caused it. Damn Turbo Tax! :D

    And then the man who is to be in charge of Medicare and Social Security failed to pay Medicare for his driver among the other tax evasion tactics. Honest mistakes. Both these guys men I totally trust to be in charge of our money. :rolleyes:

    As far as the lobbyist rule, well, that was really meant to be followed by his staff, not really Obama himself. :rolleyes:

    The only change I have seen so far is that many of the citizens are awestruck by Obama and like any sheep they are slowly being fleeced as they hold on to the hope and dream of change. After our future is sold to the foreign investors by borrowing and borrowing, slowly people will wake from the trance and say what happened? We now have to pay over half our income just to pay for the bail outs that did nothing for us.
     
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    wwws Notable Member

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    Well, lets impeach Obama. Crying out loud, the president just started working two weeks ago and still has another week for his first paycheck. Hope that happens to you on your first two weeks on the job.:cool:

    He's not going to be perfect and certainly, not going to be a Bush either.
     
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    Americans are looking for a free ride. ;)

    You can't blame that on Obama.
     
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    drmike Well-Known Member

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    Do you know how many people Obama need to hire and have hired? If he took the time to look into completely private matters (such as taxation) on each and everyone of them, then he would never actually get around to being President. D you really think Obama and Daschle sit around on Saturday nights drinking and laughing about how Dachle stole $128K from the tax man? I'm doubting that came up in the interview process.

    And why can a lobbyist not be brought into government? Yes they should be watched to ensure they are working for the people and not their former companies while in office, but wouldn;t it be discrimination to say... sorry you used to be a lobbyist so now you can never work for the government? Thats like saying sorry you used to be a professional baseball player so now you can't work at library.

    Everyone deserves an equal chance, and as we have seen once you screw up with Obama you're gone. Now if that isn't change I don't know what is.
     
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    What made you people believe that change could happen when millions of dollars of special interest group contributions are on the line. I hope somethings will change but it looks like in the end we are just exchanging one puppet (bush) for another one now. If you want change you should vote for banning all special interest group contributions to any candidate and you will see how the real issues start to be taken seriously by real candidates.
     
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    They're laughing at you now :D

    Leon Panetta earned $831,500 working for lobbyist in 2008. He has not disclosed if he has lobbied the CIA.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRSPws0NGUWs&refer=home

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