Ever Notice this about all religion ???

yeah it sounds like your understanding of science comes from games and cartoons.

the theory of evolution suggests no such thing.

natural selection ensures those better suited to an environment, on average, produce more offspiring than those less suited which propogates beneficial characteristics slowly through a population. it doesn't suggest that an individual is able to instantly acquire a new characteristic, like fur if it's cold, when he needs it.

It's amazing how you, someone who apparently doesn't even know what evolution is, feels qualified to hold an opinion regarding it's validity.

 

HAHAHA stroh

st0x owns you hahahaha

come on theirs not many arguments for god ?? mostly for evolution wich is what i did not expect.

theres just to much evidence to say evolution is false it happens everyday.

 

I was waiting for someone to argue with me

 

Someone needs to go to school and read some books.

 

Absolutely agree. Physics made a believer out of me. All the rest of my personal dogma is pretty much just me guessing, or philosophy. Oh and something you may have heard about pearls before swine.

 

If you think that there is no God, then what's this universe is all about? Who made it? or how it created itself? We have used the best telescopes that can see light years across, but we still don't find an insect on any other planet! Can you answer these questions?

If there is an object right in front of your eyes for instance a chair, then immediately you know that someone may have built it. And there's this vast Universe, planet Earth, and so on so it must have a creator as well. If someone says that he won't accept God's existence until he SEES HIM, then i think that guy is truly DUMB!

 

umm you know, there was an evolution, but can you explain me one thing, using any evolution you want

this world was created, in some way, doesn't really matter how

this way was created too, the material that used in this way was created too, in some way, doesn't matter how again

someone or something created this stuff, who created it?

i don't want to judge and/or force my religion on you, but some misterious power, bigger than anything in this world, had to exist in order to create the things that were used in your evolution (;

it doesn't matter how much you will deny it, it had to exist

i have a specific smart and good presentation from a really smart rabby that talks about the misteries of god, it doesn't forcing or leading but just quoting stuff from the bible (Tankah) and letting you to judge them and translate them, unfortunately it is in Hebrew and i didn't find any translation so im really sorry

 

Your comparison of the construction of a chair and the creation of the the universe is laughable at best.. I can understand how a chair is made, and with the right skills I could make one myself, but as I dont fully understand how the Universe or planet Earth was formed, "God" must have created it..

IMO blind faith is truly dumb.. truth does not fear investigation..

 

aam_aam's
Mate listen there was no creator ( as far as they can look back in time and see the universe about 400.000yrs after its creation ) now how can we no this you say ??
well Light travels at roughly 188.000miles per second and does not vary at all its a true constant (the measuring stick of the universe)
now if we take a telescope and look into space we see what existed at the time the light was created , so a 1 light year lets off light you see that start as it was 1yr ago.
now saying that we can use light speed to measure the universe we can tell that the galaxies are drifting apart out from a central singularity (The Big Bang) now the galaxies continue to drift apart (at a faster rate so this yr we look at sg484 galaxy its traveling at 122.000milesper second we look at it in a yr at its traveling 125.000m/p/s get for that to happen there must of been a big bang that created the universe and all we see.

Also evolution has happen for billions of yrs from basic signal cell creatures to dinosaurs to the most advanced species homosapian face it you genetics are closer to chimps them any other animal (and more then likly a chimp millions of yrs ago with small changes toward being a homosapian like less fur the hips allow more upright walking , there brains allowed them to use tools and teach the younger ones (becoz some monkeys killed lions with sticks there genetics lives on in there children and the ones to slow to use weapons slowly die out. and then the upright walking thinking ape becomes more successful.
to put it a simple as possible for DUMB ppl like aam_aam's
evoution is survival of the living organisms wich can adapt to a ever changing environment (These are mostly smalls changes overs 100s of generations of a species )

come on there is still no valid argument for creationism meaning (its not true , god is not true, if you believe you are truly behind the lowest form of life on this planet you set back the human race with your absolute ridiculous ideas that single living being had the ability to create the complexity all around us. It is simply Wrong and most we a god we clone animals we can control life and death and we can control if the human race survives another 200yrs or will backwards thinking religous fanatics hold the species back.

 

Why would it have to be "about" anything? This kind of fuzzy thinking is indicative of the religious' feeling worthless without their god. As far as they are concerned if there isn't a magic sky daddy looking down and judging them then there is no point to anything.

When we do eventually find an explanation to the beginning of the universe the religious will just reject it like they do with evolution, Regardless what evidence is presented to them. Know why? Because the beginning of the universe is where they put their god of the gaps, just like they used to with the diversity of life. Then when science come along and kicked their little world upside down they shit their pants.

See, The beginning of the universe isn't a reason for you to believe in god, It's an excuse used to try and justify your belief. and when science removes that excuse, like it did with evolution, The religious will simply ignore it.

We don't have telescopes capable of seeing insects on other planets.

Because we know that chairs are built. We know that they come into existence through manufacturing. You don't know that about the universe, you simply assume it and then produce some flawed analogy about chairs to prop up your assumptions.

Well they would probably say the same thing about believing in invisible magic men who live in the sky.

 

right on st0x

tell them make them see logic hahaha this is priceless
believing in invisible magic men who live in the sky

 

Best P&R quote ever.

 

we will develop the capability to see more and more detail, of all that exists in our universe its just a matter of time.

 

Sure it does, it mentioned about adaptations and how the survival of the fittest. Evolution is physical change reflecting the natural process over several generations. Like for instance you got a chimp and you wanted a human. Now how the hell did that happen? It surely didn't have anything to do with natural selection as the chimps were not necessarily in danger that we know of.

Oh and try and use math to prove evolution right. That should challenge some of you as most of us can agree, math plays an important role in all of our lives.

 

that isn't the same as an individual developing the ability to withstand fire the instant they are thrown into a volcano, Like you suggested it did.

The individuals don't adapt (not in any genetic sense), The species adapts through selection. Those best suited to the environment pass on genetics more frequently. If none are able to survive then the species becomes extinct.

It didn't happen. Humans didn't evolve from chimpanzees, We shared a common ancestor with them. seriously, Do you not know anything about the science you are attempting to refute?

wow, you are getting desperate. That doesn't even make sense linguistically, let alone scientifically. it's a bit like saying car mechanics is wrong because you can't prove it using flower arranging.

You can disbelieve evolution if you like, There is no law against being a scientific illiterate, But be honest and admit it's because of religion, Don't pretend it's because you have studied it and come to an informed conclusion because it's patently obvious that your grasp of evolutionary theory is nonexistent.

 

i find it hard he actually believes the dribble coming from his mouth hahaha yes you stroh

 

evolutions are so funny...

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atheist people are trying so hard to convince religious people that there are no God, while religious people don't care less for what they say...
believe what you believe... and keep it your self.

 

What, you can espouse your illogical truth but we can't?

Afraid of the real truth are we?

 

The 1 and only reason anyone believes in a God is because they are scared to believe in a world without a God.

Think of a kid who is scared of the dark because they think there are monsters in the dark. They think as long as that light is on, no monster will get them. Being adults we know it is crazy, but hey... if it helps them sleep to have a night light on to keep the boogy man away then why not. Eventually, most kids realize there is nothing scary in the dark and accept the fact that monsters do not exist and go on being happy for the rest of their lives in that regard.

Religious people know if there is no God, then there are A LOT of questions, some of them pretty scary that they will need to ask themselves... some of them finally get the point and realize God does not exist, and realize life is quite good with religion, and that just because you don't believe in God you are not evil, or the devil, or yadda, yadda.... once they realize it is safe and that there is still comfort in not believing in God they can be happy and move on.

It is all a fear thing I think. If you are told from the time you are a child that, yes if you don't have a light on monsters will get you. If your parents, friends, family... some guy who speaks to a crowd of people every Sunday (church) tells you your entire life that if you end up int he dark then monsters will get you... of course your going to believe it.... is it logical to believe it? No... but your so damn scared of it you can;t see the purpose in questioning... sure there may be no such thing as monsters... but do I really want to risk it?

Same thing with religion... all religious people know deep down the God story is illogical, but they are so filled with fear that they just consciously, or subconsciously accept that there is a God and he runs the show and decides who gets to go to heaven and hell when the show is done.

 

I think most of the outspokenness from non-believers is a reaction to what they perceive as religious beliefs being imposed upon them. Even in the US which is a relatively tolerant society, there are still silly laws that have/had religious motivations behind them, like blue laws.