Just curious as we have been submitting our sites to directories posted here and of the many lists, however, we are not bothering with the directories that have more then 5-10 domains per IP. What do you think is too many? I have seen so many that have from 48 to 300 sites on one IP. EDIT -- To submit to directories, is submitting one site to someone that has 300 directories / sites on one IP useful. Just trying to get input as to not waste our time or harm our clients. I know for my company we do not usually put more then 4 domains on one IP on our servers as we heard this is a good amount.
Too many for doing what? Heavy interlinking? Most share hosting providers run 300-400 sites / IP. It's just fine as far as you don't start interlinking like crazy Would I submit my sites to 100 directories from the same network on just one IP? It won't hurt I guess...
Your IP's apparently run concurrent; e.g. 67.227.143.183, 67.227.143.173, 67.227.143.181 I would think that a submission service would put out for separate class-C IP's rather than just going to for $2 per IP deal. To me, that renders any 'service' that claims 'Our Network of Quality Web Directories' to be totally useless. Looks like you aren't even on a dedicated server. Just plain old shared hosting. tsk tsk tsk
Firstly, not that it is your concern or business, but I am on a dedicated server ... if you would like i can show you my bill. Secondly, our directory network maintains quality listings, and we are asking about the IPs so we can submit to others not our own. Our host gave us a lot of 20 IPs what can you do, however our other lots are in different groups. So whatever. I don't even know why I am answering you to be honest. If you can't add value to the thread, why do you feel it necessary to post to it.
If you're trying to get link juice and interlink all your pages to each other just to get page rank then there will be some difference as to whether or not you should be using differnt IPs. If you're doing everything white hat and using directory listings, blog links from several different blogs, forum links, etc. then you should have no problems. I have a whole bunch of sites with the same IP because it's easier than having to maintain a bunch of different hosting accounts (and cheaper too!) Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.
IP Ip IP ... Crap! Guys stop encouraging IP for once. Whats more important is the quality of each directory! If you cannot afford quality, there is no use of IP. And if you can afford quality and then obviously is your last setup unique C-class IP address. For heaven sake I encourage all network owners to first focus on quality and then last step is to focus on IP.
What id be thinking of is are those collections all on the same IP all running off of the same database, because obviously combining that would make for a less attractive network of directories to submit your sites too. Are you referring to the number of directories they have at one IP, or the number of any websites in general on one IP? If you meant general sites then ignore my first paragraph.
I guess it is hard to know if they are all directories on one IP. I know sometimes when I am viewing the solicitations section, someone will list 10 new directories, all on the same IP (just for instance). I have read so much info about IPs and value etc it has made me wonder. Thus the initial reason for my post, as I know there are many knowledgeable directory owners / directory network owners and thought maybe they could add insight on whether we should bother submitting to all these directories, or just one (if there are 10 or more) on one IP.
Sure, why not. You know how to send a PM, right? That's funny, because of the dozen or so I checked out of the list of about 30, all IP's ran concurrent. xxx.xxx.xxx.143, xxx.xxx.xxx.144, xxx.xxx.xxx145 etc One would think If a dedicated server was affordable, then some class-IP's would be nothing... meh... Why did you remove the url to your service? Feeling a bit guilty? This was value, in the sense that I now know better than to use yoru services, as you cannot come back and respond politely, and get all uppity up and frazzled when asked anything. So the value would be NOT to use your services for anyone else reading, mr. refreshingtreasures.com p0w!
This says it all and is totally true imo unique IPs or C Class IPs in my experience have no negative effect as long as the sites arent interlinking heavily The most important thing is building a directory with unique descriptions from good quality sites. This unique IP/C Class thing is mainly exploited by people like hosting companies who make a lot of easy money from paranoid webmasters
I'll be waiting for the receipt as you so kindly offered. As for a paying cusotmer... I've helped more people than your entire network has backlinks, and for FREE at that. Oooops, their goes that theory. It's not about being nasty. It's about commentary to which you seemed to have gotten offended, rather than explained. Being nasty is exactly what you are doing here. Great show of professionalism on your part. I'm sure you've just won yourself over many clients .... only NOT
Anon, I am a really not wanting to be a piss match with you. I was asking an honest question at the start, but you took it to tell me I am on a shared hosting, and then tsk tsk tsk, so you indeed did start this and I can not help it if I take offense to it. I am too old to be fighting childishly on a website, all i wanted was input on if submitting to a directory that shares an IP with more then 10 other domains is worth submitting....and was hoping to have some good input from directory owners. I am not trying to win people over here or push them to my site or to my services, that was not the intention, I make my living off line, if I make money in my online ventures that is just a bonus. Now I am off to enjoy the Superbowl with my family. PS -- I have sent you a copy of my invoice.
I responded via PM, and as stated in the PM, an answer(should you choose to relay) via returned PM or in thread will suffice for me. Seems you have got it all wrong and made it into something it didn't have to be. Enjoy the Superbowl.
I replied to you too, I just guess I took your post more as an accusation then as a question ( maybe cuz of the tsk tsk tsk ). I was given 20 IPs in the order when I purchased this new server. The newer ones I have been getting in different blocks, but I take what they give. I hope that is answers the question. I think if you want all separate c blocks you have to sign up with those special seo hosting companies, this is the 2nd hosting/server company I have had dedicated servers with, they only give in blocks at least in my experience.
Hey, it was just all a simple misunderstanding. There are no hard feelings. I'm glad we were able to exchange the PMs to understand one another and what each was trying to convey Rob
I would be fine if 100 directories share an IP but each of them have a unique category tree, have 100s of indexed pages and do not interlink. I list number of other directories on the same IP in my directory list and had to remove many directories (incidently on same IP) that were deindexed by google. I have many other directory networks on same IP in my list but so have have seen such heavy de-indexing only for one such network (100+ on one IP and around 55 on another).
De-indexing happens for many reasons like in; same categories, same database, same submissions (duplicate content), all directories being interlinked to each other.
Right humm.. in this case it was probably a mixture of all these (though not the same database) The point I was trying to make is 'multiple directories' on same IP may not be all that bad if owners can make the directories unique.