wikipedia links

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by Peter_Rosado, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. sandyfeet

    sandyfeet Peon

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    #41
    I added a link about 4 hours ago and it's still there. Hopefully noone removes it!!
     
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  2. seoindia

    seoindia Notable Member

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    #42
    Than whats the use of adding a link there. If your competitor link is there he will surely delete it..

     
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  3. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #43
    People who love wiki will never delete links unless it is not going to benefit others.

    However, there's always ppl with no moral try to spam anything available. and sure they will remove other's link so he will get the most from the link. However, those ppl link will be remove in less than "30 minute", no doubt
     
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  4. TruckTechniques

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    #44
    I have placed a few links on key Wikipedia pages with some great success. It must be relevant or they will remove your link.
     
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  5. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #45
    Links in Wikkis that are relevant and useful (and not spam) work well and sed good traffic. Anything else will probably be removed fast.
     
    MattUK, Jun 27, 2006 IP
  6. jeremyweber

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    #46
    I recently added quite a few links to Wikipedia. I kept finding places where my link would fit. After the first 10 or so, I started noticing they were being removed. I was able to track it down in the logs, and it looks like that they have some tools that crawl wikipedia and get rid of garbage/spam links. So I changed the text of my link and only added to one place. Its been there for a few weeks:) So the lesson is, dont get greedy.
     
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  7. sudoku

    sudoku Peon

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    #47
    It's not the "competitor" you need to worry about, it's the wikipedia editors.

    Look, if you had some pages on your website that others could add content to (which you do for all I know...), and a load of people showed up to stuff those pages with links, you'd go in and clean it up, wouldn't you?

    Well, the editors on wikipedia (correctly) consider it their website. So they do the same thing.

    If you put in some actual useful content, and your "competitor" maliciously removes it, the wikipedia editors would be likely to put your content back. But your contribution has to be an actual contribution. If it was weak, or if your "competitor" puts something even better in place, the change would stick.

    If you just want inbound links, try something else. Working on wikipedia means playing by their rules.
     
    sudoku, Jun 27, 2006 IP
  8. maney

    maney Active Member

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    #48
    I'm pretty peeved off with wikipedia. I changed some incorrect information on a page (I offered some good correct advice) and they changed the info back to the incorrect stuff and removed my links. Whats all that about?!
     
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  9. AtanasYanev

    AtanasYanev Active Member

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    #49
    I've added my first 2 links in the wiki..
    They are links to my articles.. But the articles are in my real estate company website...
    The Articles are original and with fresh content, no adsense, banners, property offers or anything else that can be commercial or something..
    First link is online for about a hour, really weak topic, but related to my keywords ;) (for my main site!!!)(pr4) - there were 3-4 spammy links and i removed them

    The second one is about a winter sport in my country, its online for about 45min, i think it'll bring me lots of traffic...(pr6)

    Respect to Wiki and please, DO NOT SPAM WIKI !
    Just write and post real content, let real people select your quality of content...
     
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  10. tposs

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    #50
    All I managed to get on Wikipedia was a link in the "Talk" page of one of their apparently heavily-spammed topics. I am a registered user and decided to contribute content, but both times I included my URL and set off the administrator's alarm. The administrator removed my content contributions and URL posts.

    I argued with him/her (someone named "Gilmael"), saying that it's not spam to contribute content and post a relevant link in the talk page as I was suggested to. I ended up with my URL on the "Talk" page, which nobody will probably ever see.

    So my advice is tri-fold: 1) register as a user, 2) post valuable content in vrious categories to establish trust, 3) wait awhile before posting content that includes your URL.


    --Anthony S.
    Webmaster, The Paid Online Survey Center (www.PaidOnlineSurveyCenter.com)
    "The place to learn the best (and worst) paid online survey panels"
     
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  11. seoindia

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    #51
    Suppose I have a site on travel and i wannt it to get added to a very popular category of Travel. Already many of my competitors sites are added there. what should i do to get added there. If i simply add my link in external links on that category in half an hour the link disappaers. So how to go about it.

    Even if a post some quality content even than how to add link??
     
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  12. MattUK

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    #52
    Then it's obviously not wanted, try coming up with something realy useful and it'll probably be kept. It's not required they link to you, they do so depending on the usefulness of your content.
     
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  13. seoindia

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    #53
    I am trying to submit in a category where may of my competitors sites already exists and my site is much better and focussed than of them 9http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajasthan) ....so i cannt understand my link donnt getting added. so i just wanna know that how to add a link even if i submit a article there..



     
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  14. CReed

    CReed Prominent Member

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    #54
    Reasons are usually given for removing links.

    Please stop adding commercial links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks

    Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, you will be blocked from editing.
     
    CReed, Jun 27, 2006 IP
  15. seoindia

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    #55
    No reasons were given and when already commercial links are added there on what basis they are added. Usually if u review the links there they are a combination of commercial + information. Mine is not a aexception as well. If commercial links donnt get added in wikipedia how are other sites getting listed there...

     
    seoindia, Jun 28, 2006 IP
  16. AtanasYanev

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    #56
    12+ hrs, my links are still there but ZERO hits ;)
    Hope that if not for my traffic will help for my PR ;)
     
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    #57
    Go to the history tab, click on the Talk links and you'll see the reasons why the links were removed and by whom.

    (cur) (last) 16:07, 28 June 2006 59.95.165.225 (Talk) (→External links)

    (cur) (last) 12:52, 27 June 2006 61.246.40.62 (Talk) (→External links)
     
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  18. WebNirvana

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    #58
    Some commercial links do stick. Either someone with a longstanding reputation added them or they're on a page that isn't frequently edited.
     
    WebNirvana, Jun 28, 2006 IP
  19. KLB

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    #59
    Quite a while back Wikipedia editors had linked to many of my pages as primary source material. In fact I first learned about Wikipedia from my referrer logs. I kept getting a mess of 404 errors because of bad links from them and I had to add a 301 redirect to my .htaccess file to point the poor users in the right direction. At some point in time some Wikipedia "editor" got mad at my site for something and decided to go through and remove all the links they could find (some survived).

    In a really perverse way it ended up being a favor because about when the links from Wikipedia to my site started appearing I started finding my articles and graphics plagiarized on Wikipedia and I had to file DMCA take down notices to get my material removed (it took work but I succeeded). Once the links to my site were removed, the plagiarism stopped.

    So what I learned was that while Wikipedia links might be good for SEO, too many links lead to plagiarism of one's articles onto Wikipedia, which then results in all of the Wikipedia scraper sites out there republishing the same plagiarized articles and one ending up spending a lot of time issuing take down notices.
     
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  20. sudoku

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    #60
    LOL

    I recommend KLB's post as the definitive answer to the "how can I get a wikipedia link" question: "Have content worth stealing."
     
    sudoku, Jun 28, 2006 IP