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Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by hsaleem, Jun 24, 2006.

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  1. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #21
    That was my question? What makes you think MattUK is a porn distributor?
     
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    ishfish Peon

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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #23
    And what is that supposed to prove?
     
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    vulcano Active Member

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    #24
    Assuming that you are the owner of that site, I think it proves that you are a hypocritical and shy member of human society, otherwise you would not have any problem putting this same grandadxxx-site in your fantastic signature while posting here.
    Don't you think so?:rolleyes:
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #25
    I think that's more than a little presumptuous and insulting, vulcano.

    First, what makes you think he's trying to get that site listed at DMOZ?

    Second, even if he is, is his site any worse than hundreds of others in DMOZ Adult?

    Third, most people with more than a few websites can't put them all in their signatures - there is a character limit and I believe a limit on number of sig links permitted. There may even be a limitation on what kinds of links are allowed, I'm not certain. But not having a site in your signature doesn't necessarily indicate that one is trying to be shady. It may just be that he feels his other sites need the promotion more.
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #26
    Minstrel please read the first page, MattUK started the insulting behavior by seriously offering to bribe an editor for a listing. Do you think he could be so naive that he couldn't foresee a bad ending?
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #27
    I did read it. How was he insulting vulcano or anyone else? And how is that related at all to whether or not he owns a porn site? Where do you see the evidence that this was even the site he was trying to have listed?
     
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    talkwebz Banned

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    #28
    I know..you don't have prove...and stop insulting MattUk...just stop this convo..seriously...how would you like to have someone insult you...lets just stop
     
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    #29
    I don't think so. I think it just proves that the whois information provided for that site and the first site in his signature (metro-london.com) are exactly the same, and they have the same host IP. Pretty convincing IMO that they are both his sites. That's all.
     
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    maldives Prominent Member

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    #30
    If you think your is appropriate for submission just choose the most appropriate catagory and submit.

    If your site meets the guidelines it will be included.
     
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    compostannie Peon

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    #31
    Editors as a whole are seriously offended by any bribery offers. His offer was not directed to any specific editor, it was open to all of us and I felt offended. :(

    It's not related to whether or not he owns a porn site. It doesn't matter which site he wanted to pay an editor to list, at this point it is irrelevant. The fact is, he deserves a ban on all his sites and all the sites he ever makes in the future.

    I personally haven't taken any action on this, but it's possible that someone will.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #32
    Are you complaining because that site actually is obeying the law and has 2257 declaration while Meta encourages the editors to break the law and list illegal sites that don't have it?
    If he make it an illegal site without any 2257 declaration, stuff it with words like teens and add a touch of bestiality like many of the sites in DMOZ, do you think it improves it's chances of getting listed? :rolleyes:
     
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    #33

    minstrel, with all respect from my side, I give a sh** which site this guy wants to get listed at the ODP. The majority of the sites from his signature are on that server. The sites he does not have in his signature, include names like dirtyxxoldman, euroxxswank, footiexxheaven, grandadxx, pornoxxalliance, I suggest you have a look yourself.
    You could be right that his other sites need the promotion more.:rolleyes: On the other hand if I remember well, you lately labeled Annie being somehow too optimistic/positive in respects of the intentions of some fellow editors. In this case I would think the same applies to you in respect of MattUK. Simple as that, and from my side there were no insults intended, you should reread how this started.
     
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    #34
    What you are ignoring is the fact that why people need to offer bribe? If DMOZ had proper procedures for handling of submissions, do you really think people would try bribery? If you make an environment which is filled with corruption and improper actions then you can hardly blame others for trying to do the same thing. Bribery attempts is the direct result of DMOZ failures as an organization and you have the admins and staff to thank for. ;)
     
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    ArcticPro Banned

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    #35
    I've tried getting into the DMOZ countless times into the right cateories and everything without any success. Is it because there are no editors of the categories? Yet there are other sites in them. :(
     
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    #36
    Hmmm, yes a little presumptuous maybe, desperate nonetheless.

    The sites in my sig are my sites, others on that server are clients sites, there's other adult ones on there too, I can give you a list if you want?

    I personally don't have a problem with adult sites as long as they obey the law unlike some of the sites on DMOZ ;) I'm not really nterested in a morality debate, I'd happily take money from tobacco companies and leather shoe manufacturers, but would would draw the line at child porn and sites that gloify self harm and eating disorders which is where we differ I guess.

    However, the sites I'm actually looking to get in to DMOZ are for non-adult clients that I keep on a different server. This is for a couple of reasons, firstly that I don't believe my non-adult clients would appreciate being on the same IP address, secondly because they want to show up for UK searches - my main dedicated server is US based, and my secondary server is based in London.

    I'm sorry I offended you. If all editors were like you the ODP would work as it would supposed to. However this isn't the case. It's a fact that's it's corrupt and a large number of editors only work out of self interest. I can only say I'm sorry that they're not like you.
    I've actually had two contacts from editors, one of which would be relevent for one of my clients. Both are very expensive, but I'm going to put the offer to my client and recommend that they take it as it's probably the only way they'll get in with any reasonable time limit.
     
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    #37

    gworld, it's already several months that I am entertaining myself reading your postings here. To a certain extent, many of them are interesting and some of them even contain some valid points when criticizing the ODP.
    Other than that, repeating your accusations again and again, doesn't make them become more true, unless you offer solid proof. Will say, besides coming back with your latest examples, removed editors I know about, most of the leftovers were corrected. So you show me where there is the "environment ..filled with corruption and improper actions" without wild assumptions and we can talk about it.
    Before I forget about it, I do not ignore "the fact that people need to offer bribe", but I also think that it is rediculous to believe that this MattUK would get the other 11 quality-sites listed at the ODP.;)
     
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    #38
    I already have a list of sites on that server. I'd be interested to know what other sites you have though.
     
    ishfish, Jun 26, 2006 IP
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    Well, you can check the other ones on the server, the main ones are remaining confidential ;)
     
    MattUK, Jun 26, 2006 IP
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    #40
    I think HaXan has his answer now.
     
    sarahk, Jun 26, 2006 IP
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