Muslim cleric says; if your wife doesn't have sex when you demand it, Beat her

Why not? Your view is that a 9 year old capable or reproduction is not a child, right?

Oh i see, your prophet didn't know how disgusting we would think having sex with a child would be in 2009. Not much of a prophet is he.

 

he is a true prophet, and there are enough proofs for anybody who wants to study them with open mind, you are free of course to believe whatever you want, there are so many opinions, beliefs or ideas about God but that does not change the fact that the truth about God is one, and that each of these beliefs claims that theirs is the truth,

this messed his image in the ones who wanted to believe that this would mess his image, if we are to think using the same logic, then he would not have used a donkey for his transportation, because it would mess his image with the ones who use limousines right now, he would not have dressed as he dressed because this would mess his image in Buckingham Palace, he would not work as a shepherd then because it would mess his image now in the lawyers club, he was a human being and a prophet, who eats and drinks, despite this would mess his image in the eyes of the ones who expected God would come himself (or maybe send another God) to tell them I do exist,

to answer your question about verse 50:38

why this verse in specific? if you are familiar with Quran you would know that this is not the only verse in which God refers to himself by "We" there are many others for example:

“And We did not send you (O Muhammad) except as a mercy to the world." 21:107

Qur'an been revealed in Arabic, it is common in Arabic to refer to somebody with high importance with "We", other than Arabs have the same too, like Queen of England, she refers to herself as "We" instead of "I", this is called the plural of respect not the plural of number.

 

I see where you are coming at and no disrespect to you either. I am still reading the Qu'ran so I can't really argue or agree with it fully. It is an interesting work however and I am enjoying the read. My current opinions of it still stand however.

 

So why didn't he know that in 2009 he would be seen as a paedophile?

You can't have it both ways. Either he knew the future, or he didn't. Which is it?

 

He wasn't, the people who followed him were gullible and he also did a lot of things through violence. Read the Qu'ran st0x and you will know what I mean. Most of his statements are also allegory. Imad was raised this way so his statements are more biased than anything to be honest.

 

he is seen as a pedophile by you, in fact the majority of people in everywhere from 18th century and before are pedophiles in your eyes,

nobody knows about future except God, and the prophet knew what God has taught him about future, so your question is irrelevant, but there are things that he knew, or been taught, or expected, like that he will be seen as a liar by some, not in 2009, but the same day he tells them I m the messenger of God, did that stop him from delivering the message?

 

I hope you will read the Quran too, with an open mind not the same mind that saw in "We" multiple Gods, because it will then speak who is the biased.

thanks for proving my point when I said:

 

So you do want it both ways. He knew the future when it comes to you telling us the quran made scientific predictions and he didn't know the future when it come to him knowing that in 2009 people would view having sex with a child as sick and repulsive.

 

Now let's consider your accusations of pedophilia:

A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children, and a child is someone who hasn't reached adulthood, i.e. hasn't reached puberty yet. Usually pedophiles are secretive and molest these youths against their will. Now let's see if your accusations match reality:

1) The Prophet (pbuh) was never involved sexually with anyone that was a child. Certainly Aisha (may God be pleased with her) was young, but she is still considered an adult because she was past the age of puberty at the time of marriage. Islam permits anyone who has reached adulthood to make their own decisions, like entering contracts such as marriage.

2) The marriage of the Prophet (pbuh) and Aisha was an open, transparent, and celebrated event. It involved not only the consent of the two spouses, but also the consent of the families, and the community at large had no problems with it.

3) If someone is a pedophile, they are interested in sexuality with young children. They wouldn't be interested in actually having a long term relationship with someone who is young, such as a long marriage, because eventually everyone grows up and becomes an adult. So characteristically, a pedophile would hunt for as many children as they could come in contact with, and try to maintain interaction within a certain age group. Obviously none of this obscene behavior was seen with the Prophet (pbuh), who married Aisha (may God be pleased with her) when she was 9 and remained married until he died when she was 18. And in fact that was the youngest of his wives.

 

LOL, this topic is brilliant. All the time I was wondering how many people who aren't Muslims keep defending Hamas, and then this topic comes in and surprise - These people are actually Muslims who also defend pedophilia!

 

You still understand marriage as sex, ok, we cannot change your behaviour

understand marriage according to your own behaviour and we understand marriage according to ours.

You are innocent of what I do and I am innocent of what you do.

God will judge between us in the day of judgment (which is soon), and God will disgrace the lairs and the pedophiles.

 

Surprise ?? hmmmm , you didnt know that before ? hehhe I think that you are happy now, as you think that only Muslims are against the Crime of Isreal on Gaza ...?????
Maybe you are wrong

Dont play with me . check the notion of pedophilia (posted above ) before posting such comment . Did you see any defence for Pedophilia .?
You know very well what I mean .

 

We condemn pedophilia and reject it.

We defended hamas for they were oppressed by the jews.

till what shall we explain that marriage is not sex?

marriage is higher than that.

 

did mohamad not consummate the marriage when the child was 9? simple question.

 

It seems from the posters justifying sex with a child of 9, that Islam accepts the notion, "if there is grass in the field, play ball".

That was something I heard as a kid, it was a joking reference to puberty, but nobody every took it as more than a joke. I never thought that was an accepted moral line. I guess I stand corrected and to some that is the line of morality.

 

if your wife wants to only have sex twice a month, you should divorce her

 

Consummate the marriage, not consummate sex.

she was with her parent, then when she was 9, she moved to the house of the holy person who was a light for huminity.


Ask yourself a logical question:

If you are interesting in sex, would you delay your lust if the girl was with you alone?

What do you say about the person who didn't practice sex in the first month of marriage?

He is guilty interesting in sex, yes?

No way to attack the prophet peace be upon him.

Also answer this question:

Is it right to marry a girl, then when she want to have ...x... with you, you ignore her?

The girls have lust as we have, too.

You should understand that, and you should know that you have to bring happiness to your wife.

 

Consummating the marriage means having sex with your wife.

 

I would add:
As long as you know the rules and you can play well, girls would like you.

but if you are zionist in the game, then they might hate you.

 

this is in your dictionary, but in mine it means what I explained above.

We have steps in marriage,

Consummating is when the husband take his wife to his home.

According to the story of Aysha and the prophet peace be upon him and his family, it means what I explained.