What are you talking about? Didn't you read about Timothy Geithner's troubles? There are these things called computers. I'm sure you've heard of it. Every US citizen and resident alien is assigned a SSN. It's really difficult to run a report against all the active SSN and received tax returns, right? How long would it take to process a few million records? You're under-estimating the US government in general, and the IRS in particular. So Bushy started some wars over questionable circumstances, and that is your reason for not paying taxes? And where did you get your stats that "hundreds of thousands" died in the 2 wars? Yeah, listen to this guy, don't pay your taxes, and take your money and stuff it in your mattress. I think you gotta get off the late night TV infomercials dude.
May I suggest you read the following page: http://www.gambling-law-us.com/State-Laws/South-Carolina/ Particularly... Notice that 1/3 of your fines goes to the snitch that turns you in to LE. I would end that dream now if I were you.
That's ridiculous. But I was thinking about a legal way. One is to have a charity, and the other is somehow through the government. How does powerball operate?
Powerball is run through the government. If you are having a charity auction you cannot make money off of it.
Technically you are not allowed to make money, but the founders usually pay themselves a hefty portion of the funds. This is where the loopholes are located.
If it doesn't matter why are you responding to it? The thread starter asked a question, and I answered it. He asked for members to give their opinion and I did. Last time I checked, my post wasn't directed at you, so if you don't have anything useful to add to this thread, then stay out of it.......I didn't ask you your opinion, and I could care less what you think about what I think.... You overestimate both the government and the IRS. Unless you're pulling down hundreds of thousands each year, then the Feds won't likely waste their time coming after you when they've got bigger fish to fry. If you're making a lot then watch out......I've read the statistics, so much goes under the government's radar that it would blow your mind, you think the mob and drug dealers "report" their income? Oh no, only the good little broke and debt slaves do that...... One more thing, if you're making money though Online Gambling, then as of 2006 it is illegal, so if you're a U.S. citizen letting the feds know you're earning money from online gambling may get you in a lot more trouble than simply not paying your taxes. Something to think about..... Bobocheez, you would be wise simply to not report your income. If you're making money from gambling then it is illegal, and that already puts you in a bad position. At this point, for you to report your income is like a drug dealer reporting his, it is stupid and you will only wind up in deeper trouble. If you've already past the point of no return, why go back? Stuffing your money under the mattress will leave you richer than paying it to the government. Doesn't matter where you keep the money, so long as it is in your pockets and not the Feds. Why pay taxes to the thief? You do know the government robs you all the time right, you know, with inflation and social security and all that stuff?
That is true. I agree, but there is one other thing to cosider. Your family, your friends, and your life. As much as I would love to take their $500,000 salaries and shove it right up their asses, the cost is not worth it. Your family would be in much pain, you would sacrifice your trusted ones, and your life would be over. This world is built on greed, lies, and faggots, and the only way to reach above the rest is to counter the ones at the top. I'm not saying everything should be regarded, but don't go to a gun fight with a knife. Bring a sniper and hit them where it hurts most. The point is, chose your battles carefuly. And setup side roads. Don't focus on one thing in particular, but depend on alternatives, so that when something blocks one road, you jump onto another. This will take a very long time to figure out, and will take extensive research, and power. But until we have the power, not much can be done. So, I'll do it right the first time, and make my own rules the second. This does not go along with what I am saying, but it makes sense in any situation "MONEY. POWER. RESPECT." -Tony Montana
You are trolling political issues in the legal issues forum. His request for was for opinions on the legal matter, not your personal beliefs on what the law should be. I tried my best to add useful legal information, while you on the other hand advocate tax evasion and breaking countless laws. You don't have to ask my opinion to get it.
This is not the right forum for political issues, and facts overrule opinions, but it still ties in to laws. The government does control everything. As far as opinions go, that is one thing we do have, and everyone is entitled to one. If you don't like it or just don't care, then ignore it and move on. In the middle of every issue is someones opinion, and suggestion based on their experiences, but in the climax we must look to details and facts incorporated with the connotations and find a solution. Now about the lottery. From what I've read and heard, most successors break some kind of law, and dance on someones grave. However, they may or may not have followed a legitimate path, but I'm sure they did something right. (Maybe an alternate path.) Those charities with the lotteries do pay the owner. It is very easy since they have lawyers and lieing is very easy, so something legit can be made up, and easily proven. Here we have two options, the easy way is to go ahead and go underground. The second way, to find an alternate path. An affiliation with the government is out of the question now, so what do you suggest? What do you know and what have your read?
Excellent, I'm glad to see that you've chosen to be a master of your own destiny bobocheez by picking the Red Pill instead of the Blue Pill. Don't let the people in this forum scare you into thinking that the IRS will knock down your door any minute if you don't pay your taxes, because it is a bunch of baloney. I've actually done a bit of reading on this subject, and I can give you some tips that will give you "real" freedom and security, not the serfdom that so many Americans are falling victim to. Here are my tips, you will find they supersede anything these other people will tell you. 1. The IRS will not know you made the money unless a 1099 form is sent to them. If you're making a bunch of money through a PPC program like Adsense for example, Google will require your social security number so that they can report you to the IRS if you make above a certain amount, I believe it is $400+ per year. Around tax time, those who made more than $400 in Google Adsense will get a 1099 form, this basically means Google has reported your earnings to the Feds and the IRS knows exactly how much you made. In a situation like this, it would be best to pay the IRS since they know you made the money and will eventually come after you. However, if you're making money through Epassporte, Moneybookers, or some online payment account, there is no 1099 so the IRS doesn't know you made the money unless you volunteer to tell them you did. The only other way they can find out that you made the money is through an Audit, but again, being audited is like winning the lottery. It is impossible for the IRS to audit everyone because they simply don't have the resources or money. What people don't get is that the IRS is mostly interested in the big boys, and I mean the guys and gals who are pulling down hundreds of thousands or millions per year. If you're in this income bracket, you need to be worried, but there are solutions. 2. Don't transfer more than $10,000 at one time to your bank account. The government has a program called FinCen:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fincen which was established in the 1990s to report "financial crimes" or "suspicious activity." In other words, it is designed to make sure you can't make money without big brother knowing about it. My advice to you is to read up on FinCen, and learn how it works. Last time I checked, transactions for more than $10,000 will register on their radar, so if you're gonna move money, keep it less than $10,000 per transfer, and don't move too much at once. 3. Be careful what you buy, and how much you stuff you buy at one time. I overheard a guy once who says he knew someone in the FBI, and he said that one way the government catches people is by paying attention to the things they buy. For example, if you're living in a one bedroom apartment in some small town in the U.S., and you suddenly purchase a penthouse in Manhattan, there are departments in the government who will become suspicious, and who will begin watching you. They will want to know how you got that much money so fast. Again, if you suddenly buy a Ferrari, because only a handful of people on planet Earth can afford to pay for this type of car, you will arouse suspicion. Many mob bosses and dealers have been destroyed because they spent money like idiots and caught the attention of law enforcement. Stay low key and never spend money on bling or other BS, at least now while you're here! Watch the movies American Gangster and The Goodfellas, in both these films, the gangsters get taken out for the same reason........they spent too much money at once and drew too much attention to themselves, remember stay low key! 4. Open an offshore bank account Because American is rapidly turning into a police state where all our freedoms are being lost, the government can spy on your bank account and freeze it whenever they want. Safe deposit boxes here are not "safe" the IRS or feds can open it if they are suspicious. Having said that, you need to open an account in an offshore tax haven, Switzerland is the best, followed by Cayman Islands, Lichtenstein, or a place like this. Switzerland is the best in my opinion, it is a neutral country that is what America should be: a nation that minds its own business and takes care of its people, and backs its currency with gold! Anyway, the Swiss have iron clad bank secrecy laws, bank employees can be imprisoned for revealing anything in your bank account to others, it "is" possible for your accounts to be frozen, but in Switzerland it is very difficult and it takes a lot of work. Unless you are a terrorist or someone wanted by Interpol, the IRS usually can't touch anything in Switzerland. The bad new is that the opening an account with the Swiss will often require you to have big figures, a minimum of a 5 digit bank account balance and more than likely six figures, but it is well worth it. With an offshore account, the earnings from your gambling enterprise can be placed directly into the swiss account, bypassing the U.S. altogether. 5. Incorporate your gambling business outside of the U.S. jurisdiction Ever heard of a guy named Calvin Ayre? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Ayre He is a billionaire, the founder of Bodog. He bypassed U.S. gambling and tax laws by structuring a corporation in Costa Rica while living on the island of Antigua. Because his corporation is structured outside the U.S., the U.S. government can't do anything. He uses a technique called "jurisdictional arbitrage" basically taking advantage of different jurisdictions to make his profits. Because he doesn't pay taxes, he is a billionaire. They say this guy never goes anywhere without being surrounded by gorgeous women...I'm actually a bit jealous of him, lucky bastard! Just kidding, anyways, follow his example and consider structuring a corporation in a jurisdiction that has low taxes(or none), and which allows online gambling. That way you're in a good position. 6. Consider getting out of the U.S. to become an expat. The Fed aren't going to like it if you decide to become a Neo and choose your own destiny as opposed to being a Mr. Anderson, so you can expect the Agent Smith IRS to send their lap dogs after you if you do the stuff I recommended in this post. The way around this pesky little problem is to simply leave the country, and go live in a country that "doesn't have extradition laws." If you move to a country with extradition laws, it may be possible for the Feds to have you extradited back to the U.S. for tax evasion. To avoid this, it is best to live in a country which doesn't extradite. Besides, the U.S. is on the verge of an economic collapse, Obama wants to print another $850 billion to stimulate the economy but the only thing he will stimulate is a hyperinflationary economic collapse. At that point, trust me, you don't want to be in the continental U.S., and if you're here, I advice you to stay home stockpile food and guns. This brings me to my last piece of advice. 7. Protect your money with silver and gold. If you've been looking at the prices of everyday goods over the last few years, you might have noticed that it is all rising in value. The reason for this is because of inflation, or the decline of the U.S. dollar. You see, the government is in serious debt, and to get out of it it will have to file for bankruptcy or try to print its way out. If it prints its way out, the dollar will become worthless and anyone who has dollars will be left holding worthless paper. I advice you to transfer 20% of your money into pre 1933 silver and gold coins. These coins will be numismatics, if the dollar collapses your wealth will not only preserve itself, but grow. Only 2% of Americans have physical gold and silver, get yours now while they still accept paper dollars for it, because they may soon stop! Gold and silver are powerful weapons against the government, notice that free nations like Switzerland use gold, there is a reason for this. First, with silver and gold, there is no inflation, the government can destroy the paper currency and the gold remains valuable. Second, gold and silver can be traded anywhere in the world, it is recognized world wide as a form of money. The same can't be said for the dollar or other currencies, the day may come when no one wants them. It doesn't make sense to preserve your wealth in a paper currency that may soon die. 8. If you do get identified by the government for not filing your taxes, don't stay and try to fight them in court. Run! Many well meaning but foolish people, including the likes of Wesley Snipes, Ed and Elaine Brown, and Irwin Schiff made the worst mistake that you could ever make when dealing with the tax issue: they attempted to fight the government in court. One thing that you have to understand is that America is no longer a free country, so if you're identified for not paying taxes, attempting to argue the unconstitutionality of the issue in the court is a waste of time. People have been there and done that, and most have lost. Wesley Snipes will spend three years in prison, Irwin Schiff will spend 13 years in prison, and the Brown family is also spending at least five years in prison, but probably longer. The one thing that all these people have in common is that they tried to fight the government. DO NOT try to fight the government, if you get identified, get out of the U.S. asap. If you lose the case in court(you will), you will have a long prison sentence. And for heaven sakes, don't try to have a physical stand off with the government, or they will kill you like they did at Ruby Ridge:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge You must have a contingency plan set in place for if you are audited. If you get identified for an audit by the IRS, sitting down with the auditor is suicide. Have your passport ready and be prepared to hop on the first plane out of here. Better yet, if you get outside of the U.S. jurisdiction in advance, you will never be selected for an audit. It is as simple as that.
I also wanted to add that some in this thread have been attacking me for talking about "political issues." My response to this is that you can't talk about "taxes" without talking about "politics," because the two are intimately related. I would first like to say that I'm a law abiding citizen that doesn't advocate the breaking of laws. But when a man makes money, that money should belong to him, not the government. The U.S. government can't prove there is a law which makes it mandatory to pay income taxes, it is actually a tax on labor. When this country was founded, we didn't have an income tax, and the founding fathers would never have accepted this type of tax. If the U.S. were a free country, we would have a "consumption tax" where the amount you paid in taxes would be based on how much you buy. Of course, this tax would mean that all the rich people and high rollers would pay the most, since they buy the most expensive stuff, but since these people run the government they have no intention of ever allowing a consumption tax, and will continue to oppress the people with a burdensome income tax. The Elite like the current income tax system because they get to redistribute wealth from the poor, working, and middle classes into their own pockets. Some of you may argue that the elite pay more, since their incomes are higher, but you're dead wrong. The super rich have very elaborate ways of dramatically reduces their tax burden, and while some do it through tax free foundations, others use many other creative and legal loopholes to do it. A guy like Bill Gates pays "more" on the surface, but since he "has" billions of dollars, this money isn't tax, so he wins while the typical American loses. I agree that every country needs some form of taxation, I've read books on microeconomics and I realize that no country could function without taxes. But the income tax is a stupid and fundamentally wrong tax. We don't need a mandatory tax where the government will come to kill you if you don't pay it. What type of country is that? Do you call that freedom, where the government hunts you down over taxes? All taxes should be optional, if taxes were optional people woulds still pay them. The consumption tax is far more superior, it would actually encourage people to be thrifty and save money, to be frugal and avoid debt, and our country would not have the economic problems that it faces today. In fact, a consumption tax would encourage an enormous amount of foreign investment in the U.S., because corporations know their taxes would be low. But you will never hear your congressman talking about a consumption tax because this type of tax would empower the people and hurt the big spenders, it would encourage responsible financial behavior. As I said, the income tax can never pay off our national debt, and we wouldn't have a national debt if our government was fiscally responsible. At some point, you have to learn the difference between what is right and what is wrong. Those of you in this thread who are advocating bobocheez to pay his taxes, ask yourself this question: at what point do you begin disobeying the government? Do you still follow their laws if they begin breaking their own laws? The constitution says we have the right to bare arms, that is the law, but if the government suddenly said tomorrow that the second amendment was no longer valid, would you turn in your guns? When the government begins breaking its own laws, you are officially living in a tyranny, and as Thomas Jefferson said, it is your duty to fight against tyranny. Bobocheez, I hope I've given both you and everyone reading this thread a lot to think about. A lot of Americans are about to become really poor, and you've got to ask yourself whether you want to become wealthy or go down with the Titanic as we sink into the sea. Nothing can save our economy now, we are in a depression, not a recession, and I see no recover until 2015, and perhaps not even then. Right now, avoiding taxes is the least you need to worry about. Bobocheez, send me a PM and I can send you a free e-book written by a writer that talks about the dire situation with the U.S. and how you can protect your assets from what is about to come. It doesn't deal much with taxes, finding good books on that subject is tough.
That's perfect. Correct me if I'm wrong, but technically, if someone just sends you money, it's not "income." "As reflected in its name, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) is a network, a means of bringing people and information together to fight the complex problem of money laundering. Since its creation in 1990, FinCEN has worked to maximize information sharing among law enforcement agencies and its other partners in the regulatory and financial communities. Working together is critical in succeeding against today's criminals. No organization, no agency, no financial institution can do it alone. Through cooperation and partnerships, FinCEN's network approach encourages cost-effective and efficient measures to combat money laundering domestically and internationally. The mission of the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network is to safeguard the financial system from the abuses of financial crime, including terrorist financing, money laundering, and other illicit activity" (wikipedia.org) Haha, this is so made up. All it's really doing is preserving its tax money for congresses salarie, and making extra on the side. And Scarface Lol what you mentioned is so communist. That's why I'm always hearing in commercials and movies about swiss bank accounts. So once I get my desired amount, to protect it, simply move it. Again, communism! That Calvin Ayre thing...How are you going to place someone on house arrest when he does not even live in the US. So... he became CEO of a company outside of the US, traveled and had to exchange flights in the US,....and got arrested...in the US. First I need to get the money though, then I get out. That's not a bad idea. Keep about 25% in gold just in case. Also, a currency exchange would do good too. (to euros)
But like you said, it's run by the "big guys", so it will never happen. I should go into debt and sue the government for not auditing itself. Again, like you said, why should I follow laws that the government itself does not obey. This is wrong. I'm getting me a private island....someday. I remember reading something a long time ago about a large island where there are no taxes or governments. Everyone had a piece of land and they themselves would maintain their portion. I forgot what it was called though.
Dammit, they arrested Calvin!? When did this happen? I need to read up on this, Calvin apparently made a miscalculation. Actually, he broke rule number 5: Be careful what you buy, and how much you stuff you buy at one time. Calvin's big mistake was flashing his wealth before the eyes of everyone, this guy was actually featured in Forbes! Idiot, never allow yourself to be featured in Forbes! Pablo Escobar made that mistake in the late 1980s, it and was all down hill from there, you see what I said, Calvin Broke the rules, he should have stayed low key. You know what Bobocheez? I think I need to write a book on this subject, I good book to help people like yourself, I think I could write a book about this, it would probably make a ton of money, not much info on the web on this subject, but it is extremely important. Check out the link below, this is where he appeared in Forbes, he mad a BIG mistake by doing that:http://www.forbes.com/free_forbes/2006/0327/112.html Bobocheez, learn from this guy's lesson, never allow yourself to be photographed in a major magazine like Forbes, THEY WILL come after you, just like they did Escobar and Ayre. I definitely need to write a book on this subject, I will then open an account with Clickbank and sell it as an affiliate. I've already written one book on how to build wealth, which has sold some copies, now I need to write a book on how to preserve wealth! Ayre also broke another one of my rules: do not settle as a resident in a country which has extradition laws, they can arrest you and send you back to the U.S. to stand trial! Dammit, that is it, I'm writing a book about this, these idiots keep making the same mistake over and over again. Didn't they learn from Frank Lucas, from Escobar? Morons! The real reason why guys like Ayre and Escobar are hunted down because the "elite" do not want anyone or anything threatening their power. They will allow you to become a millionaire or billionaire within their system, but if you try to become rich and free outside their web, watch out!!!!!!
What a moron, but at least he was living life. and Go for it I'd read it. Let me know when it comes out.
be very careful, all regarding to the gambling business in switzerland is illegal if you don't have a local license (Switzerland don't provide any Internet Gambling licenses!). This means no swiss bank is allowed legal to hold money from any type of gambling business. More Information you can found on the official sites: http://www.esbk.admin.ch/esbk/de/home/themen/illegales_gluecksspiel.html (German, French, Italian). But the most important thing actual for U. S. citizens is what the next weeks the swiss federal financial supervisory (FINMA) would decide regarding the request of IRS to provide additional data of 52'000 U. S. account holders of UBS.
be very careful, all regarding to the gambling business in switzerland is illegal if you don't have a local license (Switzerland don't provide any Internet Gambling licenses!). This means no swiss bank is allowed legal to hold money from any type of gambling business. More Information you can found on the official sites: http://www.esbk.admin.ch/esbk/de/home/themen/illegales_gluecksspiel.html (German, French, Italian). But the most important thing actual for U. S. citizens is what the next weeks the swiss federal financial supervisory (FINMA) would decide regarding the request of IRS to provide additional data of 52'000 U. S. account holders of UBS.
Doesn't matter where you open an account if you live in the US. As long as you have any connections with lotteries/gambling the government will stick you in jail because theyr greedy self centered politicians. This is a law only for them and helps no one - the US lottery is a scam!