15 seconds of hide and seek in sderot

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ohad, Jan 7, 2009.

  1. amanamission

    amanamission Notable Member

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    #21
    It's very simple...evacuate Sderot. Relocate the citizens. The missiles will stop.

    That's what you told the Gazans to do, except they have no where else to go...
     
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  2. Ohad

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    #22
    Evacuate Sderot? and Ashkelon too? and Ashdod? Beer Sheba? Netivot? Gdera? Ofakim? Omer? Rahat(Arab city)?
     
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    amanamission Notable Member

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    #23
    Why not? It would save many lives on both sides. Isn't life the highest of all values?

    I repeat: this is what you told the Gazan people, 1.4 million, to do. On about 24 hours notice.
     
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  4. Ohad

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    #24
    First, you are lying. IDF told to the citizens of the neighborhoods in Rafah that close to Piladelphi axis to leave. Few thousands.

    Second, you are simply support in the destruction of my country = killing / expelling 6 million people. And you call yourself "peace activist". That seem to me more as "Nazi activist".
     
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  5. amanamission

    amanamission Notable Member

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    #25
    Is this rabbi also a Nazi? We are in complete agreement on the issue.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sWRX_OFOV08

    Please watch his entire speech with the respect due to a rabbi.
     
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  6. Ohad

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    #26
    should "peace activists" like you don't act from religion factors? OK, so if you didn't know it, I would like to tell you that this group is FANATIC RELIGION GROUP LIKE IN IRAN, THEY WANT THE WORLD UNDER THE RULE OF RELIGION, AND THIS IS THE REASON THEY ARE ANTI ZIONISTS. They think Israel should raise just after the Massiah will come.

    I will repeat my words: You support in destroying of my country. You support in expelling and murdering of 6 million people. If you are a "peace activist", probably there will be no peace.... because of "peace activists" like you.
     
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  7. amanamission

    amanamission Notable Member

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    #27
    Stop telling me what I support...I have not one death on my hands. I have not urged any government to take military action.

    I simply am pointing out that there are alternatives to invasion. The IDF seems to think relocation is no great harm, so why not apply that logic to the areas under threat? Those missiles are not very powerful.

    I suggest moving people out of harm's way, and you accuse me of plotting murder? Where has your sense of proportion gone?

    And are you on record equating Rabbi Feldman with the Ayatollah? I don't agree with his religious beliefs, but they seem to be based on a more sincere interpretation of the Torah. They predict a golden age, they do not enforce it with arms. The world needs more religion like that. They trust that God will bring the Moshiach.


    You need to distinguish between people expressing their opinions and the act of wanton slaughter.
     
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  8. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #28
    Are you insane? If you say so - next time the US gets attacked, I'll expect you to evacuate and call for "peace" while also saying it's wrong to attack the other country.

    The IDF has spread flyers to people living near areas where weapons are being smuggled and there are smuggling tunnels in the area. The IDF will bomb those places and disable weapon smuggling, while also preventing casualties.

    Religion is stupid, stop believing in fairy tails. Does it really make sense to you that there's a man sitting in a cloud (or lets say the entire universe) and just listens to people pray to him for fun? What the fuck?

    So there's basically a god that creates earth and then supervises on it. He creates little people and tells them to pray. He also creates other people and makes them believe in other gods, but then kills them because they don't believe in him? What? huh?! That shit is insane!
     
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  9. iggysick

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    #29
    So your claim is that you believe what Hamas people talking? :)
    Anyway, I am still waiting on info about that UN school bombed.
     
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  10. Ohad

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    #30
    Do you support in the destruction of Israel?

    Those people are exactly like the Ayatollahs in Iran. If you don't believe me, come to "Mea Shearim" neighborhood in Jerusalem, Israel. Religion fanatics and anti-Zionists Jews lives in this neighborhood, like this rabbi. better than that, drive there with a car on Saturday, and you will experience their religion-fanatic on your flesh.
     
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  11. Ohad

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    #31
    I don't believe Hamas animals at all. I know it's true from eyewitness.
    I thought you would like to hear this from them... Because the Israelis "just telling BS and lying".

    And I am still waiting for info about the 2 schools and 3 kindergartens that Hamas animals attack with their rockets.(You probably didn't hear about that... If it's Israeli blood it's not important...).
     
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    #32
    So all in all you have no proof at all and I should just believe what you say huh? Sorry, I choose not to believe in what are you saying at all.

    Still waiting on info about that UN school bombed by IOF.
    Hams uses shitty rockets without any guidance system so they actually don't know where they will land or what they will hit so you can't say that they intentionally targeted schools and kindergartens(altough that fact isn't matter when school or kindergarten is hitted).

    On the other hand IOF knew exactly what they will hit and what they were targeting.

    Lemme hear your explanation.
     
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  13. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #33
    The difference is Hamas wants civilians to get hurt, and so do their population. If a kindergarten / school does get hurt when kids are in it (That did happen several times, luckily there were no kids there because of the alarm) and those kids die, Hamas will declare it a "big victory".
    On the other hand, the public that supports the IDF (Aka Israelis) will most likely feel the same about those kids just like you do. The school they shot was identified as a source of gunfire for a reason, it's not like they just saw a school and said "lets bomb it" - You and I both know Israel has enough international pressure on it's head, how will bombing a school help Israel unless it was justified?

    I can assure you however that they didn't kill those civilians on purpose. Yes, they shot there, but it was either for justified reasons or because of a human error - someone might have fucked up, maybe that someone indeed did it on purpose, but the entire IDF doesn't tell it's soldiers to target civilian targets purposely. 4 IDF soldiers were killed in this operation by IDF fire, are you going to say that this was intentional too?
     
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  14. Ohad

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    #34
    I just showed you a video of top Hamas animal confessing it. what other proof do you want?

    About the UN school.. It was in a middle of a battle. You said you was a soldier once, right? What did you do when some force shoot at you from some place?
     
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    #35
    If it was human error than confess it and show fucking regret! Those are human lives lost there for God sake! A human lives! All those people killed there have their names, their faces, their lives... All they have mothers, fathers, sons, sisters, brothers... Someone cry for those people too.
    I would like to see some regret from IOF instead of each single time blaming someone else.

    First, the other day some guy that Holocaust is just a myth. Is that a proof?
    Both me and you know it isn't just because someone said so.

    Second, he didn't confess anything. Watch video several times and maybe you'll get it.

    We didn't bomb the shit out of all buidings in direction where fire came from. With all tehnology IOF have I'm sure you can provide us with video of bombing that UN school.

    Btw someone may put two and two together and realise why Israel won't allow foreign journalists to enter Gaza. You have something to hide?
     
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  16. Ohad

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    #36
    When Hamas top member, one of the leaders of this terror-animal organization, admit that Hamas is using civilians as human shields, it's a proof.

    So you wanna tell me that in your war when someone shot at you, you didn't fire back?
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #37
    Do you honestly believe that the missiles will stop? Isn't that exactly what Israel did when it evacuated Gaza? The missile not only continued, but Hamas took advantage of the evacuation to use that land to further attack Israel.

    You sound like a decent guy, but you can't honestly believe what you are saying. There is no way Hamas is going to stop firing missiles if firing those missiles causes Israel to evacuate an area.

    The most disturbing thing you have said is when you even question Israel's formation. There were Jews living there before 1947 and they have just as much right to a state as the Palestinians. Frankly, I think you have have swung on the pendulum so far the other way in opposition to anything Israeli that you are actually supporting terrorism with your desires and hopes that Israel evacuate and make way for Hamas. I am not sure what caused you to have such hatred for Israel that you are pleased at the notion of its demise - but that is your issue to work out.
     
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    #38
    I'm not the head of internal investigations in the IDF. I don't know if it was a human error if it was justified, however if it was a human error then it's another terrible thing that is being caused by this useless war.

    Wtf? I didn't say this:
    Make sure you're quoting the right person.
     
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    #39

    There were Jews living there before 1947, which is true, in 1914 Jews were 8% of total Palestine population, and most of them came as refugees from the anti-Semitic Russia at that time, later instead of thanking Muslims for providing a shelter for them, they stole their land :D

    in 1947, total lands owned by Jews in Palestine were 7%

    so how can they have as much right as Palestinians? they do not.
    as strangers, they have no right to steal else property, and expel them.
     
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    #40
    iggysick, I have a feeling you can't handle the truth and you are trying to convince yourself. Sad!
     
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