Isreal is losing the War!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by TDXB.com, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. drmike

    drmike Well-Known Member

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    #41
    I am not trying to force my belief on you, I am saying the only way peace will come to this area is if one side is completely wiped out. They can't kill half of them, that leaves half that will grow strong and fight, they can't kill 25% that will leave 75% to grow strong and fight. This is not a war over simple politics where one side will eventually concede. This is a war where both sides are WILLING to fight to the death for what they believe in, and unless one side kills every last one on the other side the war will continue. It may take breaks for days, weeks, months, even years, but it will continue. So long as one person has some resentment remaining in them this war will continue.
     
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  2. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #42
    Well at least you win the award for most blood thirsty idea yet. An entire group of people has to die in order to settle a dispute? That's quite a draconian philosophy you've developed there.

    Plenty of people who were bitter enemies went on to bigger and better things. Think about the Japanese and the USA. The Japanese have a more legit beef against the USA than anyone yet both nations moved on.
     
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  3. Reseg

    Reseg Peon

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    #43
    Let's compare that to the 100% civilian ratio killed by suicide bombers and also 100% civilians are the target of the shoulder fired missiles from over the border.

    Why doesn't anyone ever mention this? It's horrible seeing kids and people who just want to live their lives dying by others who hate them regardless of the side you're on. However, if you don't want civilians dying, you don't go specifically target your civilians of your enemies then hide in the middle of your civilian families and allies. I'm not pro any race or anti any country, but this is how I understand it. Why is it that Israel is hated so much for to the point powerful leaders publicity announce Israel should be wiped off the map and others find the most crowded civilian area to blow themselves up killing as many completely innocent people as possible?
     
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  4. Arasp

    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    #44
    Israel is reaching its interests.
    Genocide is the interest of israel.

    You called Hamas group as terrorists, What is the reason that terrorist groups are hiding in hospitals ??????!!!! Doctors and nurses do that ! (for other reasons)
    Then what is the meaning of this word? TERRORISM !

    Who is a real terrorist? Hamas which is defending its territory? Or Israel which is killing all people?

    Or maybe you mean those doctors and nurses and other civilians are terrorists themselves.
     
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  5. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #45
    Why is that? You expect us to accept that as fact just because you uttered it? Why does Israel want to commit genocide so bad?

    Purposefully targeting civilians during military conflict.

    "Killing all people"? Can you please elaborate what you mean?
     
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  6. drmike

    drmike Well-Known Member

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    #46
    I know it does sound that way doesn't it, but I am actually 100% pro peace and 110 anti-war and killing. That being said, it appears with this conflict there is no other solution. Niether side seems to be interested in anything but the other complete anhilation. So, the question I poised to myself was; would it be better to have 1 or 1.5 million people killed now and have an end to it, or would it be better to let it go on for another 5, 10, 20, 50, 100 years and see... 5, 10, 20, 50 million people killed? Though I would prefer a solution where 0 people were killed, if forced to choose between 1.5 million and 10 million it is a sad, but easy choice.

    Yes this is true but they were fighting over different thing, and in different ways. The wars of the past were government controlled armies fighting government controlled armies. With that kind of war once your government tells you it is done, thats it... it is done. With this kind of war all it takes is one person with some resentment towards the other side... one person can easily gather five more to share in his view point, one of them can strap a bomb to himself and walk into a mall, school, business, government building, and start the whole thing over again.
     
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  7. ados67

    ados67 Active Member

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    #47
    "300 tanks and hundreds of soldiers"... enough said - there haven't been 300 tanks destroyed since Israeli was formed in 1948, what a blatant lie.

    Adi Friedman
    Two Believers.
     
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  8. Arasp

    Arasp Well-Known Member

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    #48
    what is the source of this funny news?
     
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    #49
    a GOD with Hamas so bye bye israel incha allah
     
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    #50
    dude its not over untill its over
     
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    #51
    Ayeree fee wij imaak :)
     
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    #52
    lech tidhof vibrator :D
     
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    #53
    can you translate us this to english ? so all we can understand :)

    I thought that we are in a english forum .:confused:
     
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    #54
    Militarily they are winning hands down. A look at a map shows they are sweeping through Gaza. Politically there is no real change, most people who are against Israel were already against them long before this conflict started. I'm guessing the usual tit-for-tat violence will continue regardless of the result of this conflict with Israeli's bulldozing houses and Palestinians blowing up buses. Frankly as a resident of the UK I'd rather the west just left them both to it, it's none of our concern.
     
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    TDXB.com Banned

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    #55
    alright im not suppose to translate bad words. i dont know to whom he was directing the message to, i assume its a joke.

    anyways, we should be generous while we interacting with others. we all are friends, here.
     
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    #56
    Only a sick twisted GOD would be with Hamas
     
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    #57
    sjkhs whwio aklakla!!!
     
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    #58
    Just because you see yourself only, that doesn't mean that there is no other qualities than yours.

    The Peace is The God of Hamas, so I hope you understand now why you couldn't see any good qualities in yourself, because simply, you are away from God The Peace.

    Glorified and Exalted is God, Above being you.

    The nature of the jews is that they attack God and His creature, but any way God is Aware of what you said and He will not leave you nor those lair who were before you.

    93. And who can be more unjust than he who invents a lie against Allâh, or says: "I have received inspiration," whereas he is not inspired in anything; and who says, "I will reveal the like of what Allâh has revealed." And if you could but see when the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong­doers, etc.) are in the agonies of death, while the angels are stretching forth their hands (saying): "Deliver your souls! This day you shall be recompensed with the torment of degradation because of what you used to utter against Allâh other than the truth. And you used to reject His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) with disrespect!"

    94. And truly you have come unto Us alone (without wealth, companions or anything else) as We created you the first time. You have left behind you all that which We had bestowed on you. We see not with you your intercessors whom you claimed to be partners with Allâh. Now all relations between you and them have been cut off, and all that you used to claim has vanished from you.


    Don't you see you are loosing and your plots have been vanished?

    Plot more, there is more (disgracment for you).
     
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    #59
    So suicide bombers spread peace and love? Or guts and flesh of innocent civilians? Just curious.
     
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    #60
    If there is a God that supports Hamas it is more like a Devil. Supporting the destruction of another people, another country, by any means. Suicide bombers killing babies is not an accident - it is Hamas' own stated goals. They encourage people to kill innocents all around the world.

    I would hope and think that people would say this is not Islam, Hamas does represent Islamic values. It saddens me when Muslims here proudly accept what Hamas does in Allah's name as acceptable and admirable.
     
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