What Is The Current Death Toll On Both Sides?

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    Does anyone have reliable (perhaps even neutral) sources that offer up the current death toll of Hamas and Israeli soldiers?

    This is a serious question, so please, no scratching and fighting like little kids.

    Thanks so much!
     
    shamus, Jan 8, 2009 IP
  2. F33l1ngz

    F33l1ngz Peon

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    7 Israel dead soldiers ( 4 killed by a misidentification of Israeli tanks - That just shows you that Israel isn't really targeting civilians purposely, it's just one big cluster fuck in there ).

    4 killed by Israeli tanks.
    1 killed by an RPG shot into a house where troops were.
    1 killed by a suicide bomber jumping on a soldier and blowing them both up when the soldier tried to clear a house. ( There are other versions, though ).
    1 killed in regular combat.

    Hamas? they're not saying at all, estimated around 120+ by Israeli forces (since ground invasion)
     
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    A lot more Hamas animals got killed by our brave soldiers: By ground, air or sea.
    And you forgot the 4 Israeli innocent civilians that murdered by Hamas animals in the rockets attacks.
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    source plx
     
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    I read it on the news but here's something from wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008–2009_Israel–Gaza_conflict#Ground invasion
    It was 5 soldiers on January 6th.. let me get detailed sources...


    1. RPG round: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3652869,00.html
    2. Tank shell 1st: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3651314,00.html
    3. 3 killed, tank shell: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3651165,00.html (that's 4 + 1 killed by RPG)
    4. Here it talks about the sixth soldier: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3651665,00.html

    First one is the most recent one ( RPG ), then there's source number 4 who's the sixth. Source number 2 is the 5th, source number 3 is the 4th, 3rd, 2nd. You can look for the 1st in the search field on that website.
     
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    now lets make a comparison of how many civillians have been killed:
    i think something like 4 israeli civillians have been killed.

    i'm not sure how many palestinians exactly, but the news reported 600 palestinians killed, MANILY women and children. Now who are the animals here?

    The israeli animals have even targeted universities, which is against international law, and was a tactic used by the nazis. Its strange to see how much the israelis complained about the holocaust, and now they are doing the same thing to the palestinians.

    Ohad: you call your soldiers brave? Only COWARDS kill women and children. Hamas uses home made rockets because thats all they have, israel has one of the strongest armies in the world. I would consider standing up to one of the strongest armies in the world true bravery.
     
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    Not sure but I would have thought any decent news site would tell you.
     
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  8. shamus

    shamus Active Member

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    Thank you for the information so far, much appreciated. Any Hamas numbers would be great too (but I know they're harder to get).
     
    shamus, Jan 8, 2009 IP
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    No, you can't take a small point in your timeline and compare it. Compare the whole deal.

    Amount of rockets hitting Israel on a monthly basis (2008 only, they've been firing since 2000! That's fucking 8 years!)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rock_mort_gaza_2008.JPG
    (The low four months are the time when there was a cease fire)
    And yeah, Israel has an alarm system that gives civilians 15 seconds to hide for cover before any rockets hit. That only means that Israel is properly defending it's civilians, not that Hamas isn't attempting to kill Israeli civilians.

    What the hell is up with the "Women and children"? Aren't there any innocent "MEN"?
    25% were civilians - WAS REPORTED BY THE UN.
    Lets compare it to Israeli casualties throughout the years: 100% civilians. That's how you compare it.

    So is shooting rockets to a different country. So is not allowing the red cross to visit a kidnapped soldier (Gilad Shalit), and Hamas broke them. You're not talking about those, are you? Besides, even Hamas admitted they had a weapons lab there.
     
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    You fit into this category perfectly.
     
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    So you're saying everyone who fired a rocket at Israel targeting civilians including women and children are cowards? Are you saying the suicide bombers who have blown themselves up in the most heavily populated area killing women and children that are celebrated as being heroes are really cowards?

    Or is it just when Israel kills civilians/women and children it's considered a cowardly act? Just want to get that straight.

    So tired of people writing as if one side is a victim that did no wrong, stop being so ignorant.
     
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    Yes please Mk tell us the suicide bombers are cowards so we can see how unbiased you are.
     
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    The BBC reports an estimated 765 Palestinians and 14 Israelis dead.
     
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    As stated enough such threads, please participate in existing threads instead of opening new ones.
     
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