how the hell do warez sites not get caught?

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by doridori, Dec 23, 2008.

  1. RagekiJohn

    RagekiJohn Peon

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    #21
    That is incorrect. It is still illegal because you are the person who is supporting and helping others download warez. The only difference is that you weren't the one who uploaded it but you are still sharing illegal files with other users. I don't get why people still upload episodes of TV shows anymore. I mean TV broadcasts now upload their own episodes online so if more users just download it illegally instead of viewing it legally, the viewer ratings will be down and eventually shows would just get shut down.
     
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  2. Dollar

    Dollar Active Member

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    #22
    Ya but there not easy to deal with. Like you ever try linking to a CNN video to show someone say in a email or MSN, its like friggen impossible, your better to download and upload it to Youtube and link it. comedy central which ends up youtube alot also, try to get there video off youtube and various outlets, there site is the same, annoying userface, slow server. The people making those sites should take a hint if they want people using their site instead of a unofficial source.
     
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  3. D12Eminem989

    D12Eminem989 Active Member

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    #23
    What some people don't understand with warez sites is, for instance rapid share. They were hit with a huge lawsuit and were ordered to remove all copyright infringement. Now there servers were located in Sweden, however - the domain was hosted in Germany.

    They can shut your site down even though your "forums" or what ever your source of sharing is hosted in a country where copyright laws mean nothing because, your domain is hosted where laws are enforced.

    Example: I am John Doe, I run a warez board in Sweden. My domain is hosted by GoDaddy.

    They could, send a DMCA to GoDaddy and they would of course delete or disable your domain upon further court order.
     
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  4. doridori

    doridori Banned

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    #24
    dmca only covers copyright infringement i think.
     
    doridori, Dec 27, 2008 IP
  5. SGBoise

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    #25
    This is an interesting topic. I always wondered the same thing.
     
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  6. campolar

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    #26
    some warez sites r hosted in the US too...but they JUST link to warez...they dont host it themself...
     
    campolar, Dec 27, 2008 IP
  7. promoHunter

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    #27
    it because the site hosting from neterland, sweden, etc... if the server located in those country then they cannot be prosecuted. but in future this may change.
     
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  8. RyanSethemy

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    #28
    Can they do anything to your actual domain name like get Godaddy to take your site down, or just sent you the DMCA letter about your site's content?
     
    RyanSethemy, Dec 28, 2008 IP
  9. D12Eminem989

    D12Eminem989 Active Member

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    #29
    They cant actually take your site down, but GoDaddy can do what they want with your domain if they receive a court order to.
     
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  10. RyanSethemy

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    #30
    #1 is for sure true - they're in Hong Kong lol, and others are in the Netherlands, Germany... etc. However, aren't the coded links so that those site's don't detect that warez site in their log files?
     
    RyanSethemy, Jan 2, 2009 IP
  11. madrwz

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    #31

    Utter crap.

    In the past, coded links were only used as security against FTP links (which were prevalent before Rapidshare and the like existed), as leaving the referrer would show where the links were being leeched to. The only theory to base your claim on is that Rapidshare have no idea about warez forum; I think not.
     
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  12. LeftoverSoup

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    #32
    They do it by Hosting in country's where the internet law enforcement is next to none & to be honest the police don't bother trying to take them down, its just to hard to combat, they would have to make deals with other country's and with the thousands of Warez sites out there it would take a huge army of police to get even just 1% of them off the internet, so now you can see that its pretty useless when its put into perspective, although when sites becomes big enough obviously the police are going to put more effort into taking it down.

    Warez sites (like Warez-BB) are reaching almost a million members, due to three huge popularity, i'm pretty sure they will be pulled of the internet in the next few years, the government's of the world will be forced to do something about all these illegal sites and they will soon!
    They will never be able to kill Warez with the internet around, but they will defiantly be able to cut out the mainstream "big fish" websites.
    Mark my words!
     
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  13. doridori

    doridori Banned

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    #33
    whoa i love ur avatar
     
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  14. tradeya

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    #34
    all warez sites always not guilty because they didn't host the files on their sites/forums. all they do is just rediret or point to the place the files were hosted so they wont be caught because of this.
     
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  15. Solitary

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    #35
    How about the ones uploading the files onto X file host? Can't the file hosts do something about them?
     
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  16. D12Eminem989

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    #36
    If and when they receive a D.M.C.A they will. Even though file hosting company's like Mega Upload are all off shore, they still have to comply with D.M.C.A notice as it's best practice for a well known company like them.

    Big places like that are only off shore to protect there customers from Federal raids and do not endorse illegal activities.
     
    D12Eminem989, Jan 4, 2009 IP
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    #37
    It's hard to tackle anything on a global scale.
     
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  18. JackNames

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    #38
    I would think that it wouldn't matter where you host... if you're using a US domain name like .org, someone should be able to shut the site down. But if you were hosting in the Netherlands, and obeying Netherland law, and using a .nl domain name, I wouln't think there is much that US law enforcement could do.

    Better even than the Dutch, check out the Principality of Sealand. :)
     
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    #39

    Are you sure about it? I thought the law enforce where you host your site. Not the domain registrar.

    Example: warez-bb dot org, register with Godaddy, Hosted in Hongkong with HostFresh.

    They seems running fine for a long time till
     
    cheaptraffic, Jan 6, 2009 IP
  20. Hoster1983

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    #40
    Warez-BB, the world's largest warez forum is owned by a guy who used to live in NZ. However, warez-bb is hosted in Hongkong, China, which does not have any laws against warez. Since then the owner has moved to live in Netherlands. The point is, a website is determined legal or illegal depending in which country it is hosted in.
     
    Hoster1983, Jan 6, 2009 IP