Why Hamas Was Originally Elected (And It Wasn't To Destory Israel)

As opposed to the Hamas dream? The dream that the propaganda from the dead civilians will somehow change public perception. The dream that this will force Israel into accepting their demands.

You mean that dream? The dream of using the dead as pawns? What a bunch of sick bastards you love so dearly.

Source: Despite pummeling in Gaza, Hamas still thinks it has the upper hand

This is a propaganda battle only. Hamas has no chance to win militarily. The poor Palestinian people are nothing but pawns. And the fools posting their pictures on DP are the biggest pawns of all.

And here comes "imad" right on schedule: declaring a victory. How fucking predictable can anyone be?

 

Polls show differently - but if you have any facts that back this statement up I would be very interested in seeing them.

I'm also amazed at this. It's easy to see why Hamas is seen as freedom fighters in Gaza.

 

Gaza isn't free because they say fuck peace(Israel could not lift the blockade while Hamas is still shooting rockets at them). But circular logic is perfect for people who are fighting for a god who has no beginning and no end.

 

lmao................


Somehow many of you somehow have the impression that the majority of people of Gaza are hatemongering brutes and not normal people like you and I.

 

LMAO !!!

Normal people would choose terrorist organization to be their leaders, of course!

 

lol so you're telling me that the civilians of Gaza voted in Hamas so they could start a war with Israel ?

I'm sorry, but you need to come to grips with reality and realize that mothers, kids, and the peaceful people of Gaza don't want conflict and prefer to live in peace just like the rest of us.

Read the original post please.

43 percent of Hamas voters said they had voted for the party just to end corruption. There is little support for an Islamic state (3%) - normal people don't want conflict.

It's not terribly difficult to understand, is it?

 

LOL!

When you vote to terrorist oranization, you are aimin to peace?!

This is your and their hamas:
Armed palestinian terrorists using Children as human Shield

 

lol two can play at that game my friend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXq57XK2L0A

BTW - they had no other choice than to elect Hamas. Other option was Fatah

 

I was talking about Hamas mainly. The reason Gaza is under blockade is mainly to stop the entrance of weapons that will be used against Israel. If the attacks stopped for substantial period of time then Israel wouldn't have any good reason to keep up the blockade. The attacks never stopped because Hamas doesn't want peace and is willing to use their own people as pawns.

Hamas toned down their rhetoric about wiping Israel from existence before and during the election, so it's true that most Palestinians were fooled. On one hand they have corrupt leadership that doesn't have a stance so unamenable to peace and on the other hand they have a corrupt leadership that doesn't want anything short of Israel's removal from the region. It seems to be typical middle eastern politics really: steal from each other, murder each other, use each other as political pawns, blame the US and Israel. Oh yeah, and bring rocks to a tank fight.

 

This is total nonsense! Are you trying to say that Hamas smugle weapons from Israel?!? Oh c'mmon! Is there anyone intelligent that can believe in such thing?!?

 

The blockade is to act as a deterrent to bringing in and using weapons by restricting entrance of supplies that could aid Hamas in their activities to mount hostilities against Israel. If Hamas doesn't want peace, then Israel is justified in cutting their supply lines. It's a shame that Hamas would put their people in such a position.
BTW, how come people aren't screaming about the Egyptian side of the border? Why did Egypt close its borders after Hamas was elected? Maybe they read my sig?

 

LMAO! You are still trying to convince us that Hamas smugled weapons from Israel!
Seriously, why did you put word "logic" in your board name? Some of your posts have no logic at all!
So where did Hamas bought all those rockets and mortars? In Tel Aviv or...

 

Put yourself in their position. You always judge their acts from your point of view.

 

Egypt entered the blockade with Israel after Hamas took power. Hamas has been smuggling weapons under the border since. The blockade is not exclusively being imposed upon them by the evil zionists.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/308...nderground-route-to-riches---or-to-death.html


http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2009/01/06/egypts_blockade_of_gaza_is_an_act_of_war/7609/

 

Hahahahahahahaha you failed miserably once again in trying to prove nonsense you've posted!
So now you admit that Hamas smuggling weapons under the border (using tunnels) yet you claimed that blockade is to stop entering weapons to Gaza!

So now I would like to hear your explanation how does Israeli blockade stops smugling weapons under the border? I'm sure you have good explanation of this!

 

Iggy, they're banning people again so I can't really be plain spoken in response. I have to make sure I walk on egg shells here and don't hurt anybody's feelings.

So I'll just try to spell it out point by point using facts:

1) israel is engaged in imposing a blockade to restrict Hamas' capacity to wage a hostile war against their people. This includes not letting in supplies or services that could be used in Hamas' war against them. I'm sure this includes not letting weapons in as well.

2) Egypt is helping in the blockade to restrict Hamas' capactiy to wage a hostile war against Israel because Egypt seems to want peace and has come to terms with the fact that Hamas does not.

If you want to prove that the arab state of Egypt has not played a part in imposing the blockade then have fun.

 

But you fail each time because you say something than you wants to convince me that you didn't claim it.
Let's look at your claim once again:

Again, this is nonsense. Weapons doesn't enter Gaza from Israel so Israeli blockade simply can't have anything to do with stopping those weapons. Period. Simply admit that and move on.
Is it that hard to admit when you are wrong?
Can you answer my question you somehow missed please:
So now I would like to hear your explanation how does Israeli blockade stops smuggling weapons under the border? I'm sure you have good explanation of this!

 

OK, I was wrong, I should have said it was to deter them from using weapons against Israel, even though the Egyptian side of the blockade is surely meant to keep weapons out.

Do you want to argue about this detail forever to detract from the real issue that Israel and Gaza's arab neighbor have both blockaded Gaza and that it's not something simply imposed on a victimized people by a stronger force for fun?

Egypt entered into the blockade with Israel in order to keep weapons and supplies out to diminish Hamas' ability to wage a hostile war. That is the larger point to be disputed, is it not? Do you disagree with this? Maybe Egypt is just a puppet of the zionists as well and that's why they entered into blockade with Israel?

 

I see Egypt as someone who basicly sold out Palestinians for US tax payers dollars. While they were controling Gaza they never showed any sign that they are willing to form there any kind of Palestinian state. Same goes to Jordan who just wante to grab as much of ex-Palestine land as they can for themselfs. Read some history and you'll see it for yourselfs.

As of Israeli and Egypt blockade it has nothing to do with stoping weapons to enter Gaza. It's pure and simply collective punishment which we watching in ME for last 50-60+ years. You voted Hamas and now you will pay. As simple as that. We saw same thing in last Lebanon war: you like Hezbollah so now you will pay so instead fighting Hezbollah Israeli concentrated their attacks on civilian infrastructure and that's why Hezbollah managed to fire bigest number of rockets on last day of conflict simply telling us that Israeli main target wasn't Hezbollah at all.

But don't take my word for it. Just read comments from Israelis on this board. Just read what they think about civilians in Gaza and you'll get the picture.

 

thats exactly how it is.