Why Hamas Was Originally Elected (And It Wasn't To Destory Israel)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by aletheides, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. #1
    First things first, I am no pro-Israel nor am I pro-Palestinian. I am first and foremost pro-peace, and pro-facts.

    This is a post I've made that would like to answer the comment I see many people are making:

    "Well they deserve it, they elected Hamas in the first place."

    Yes, that's entirely true! But, why were they elected?

    Fatah - The "George Bush" of the Middle East

    The main reason for the dramatic victory of Hamas in the election was opposition to the Palestinian Authority’s corruption.

    In a poll carried out by the JMCC after the election, 43 percent of Hamas voters said they had voted for the party just to end corruption. And there is very little support for the establishment of an Islamic state - a JMCC poll found that less than 3 percent of the population supported such a state.

    Just how corrupt was Fatah? Let's dig.

    So the next time someone says, "They elected Hamas, they deserve it" simply reply "What choice did they really have?"


    Truth. Peace.

    Thank you.
     
    aletheides, Jan 6, 2009 IP
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    Do you really think Hamas is any less corrupt? Most of their money goes into buying weapons and guns instead of things for the Palestinians. They're not developing Gaza, they're developing their militant groups instead.
     
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    Lexiseek Banned

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    #3
    They voted from Hamas because their message of revenge against Israel appealed to them.
     
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    technolarity Well-Known Member

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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    They can't do a shit to develop Gaza because of Israeli blockade since they got elected. Gaza is not free. It's just one big open prison and nothing can get in or out without Israeli approval.

    Very true. Majority of Gaza population are refugees expeled from their homeland by Israel. If I and my family were living in refugee camp for like 60 years I would rather choose revenge than corrupt goverment.
     
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    roiei Banned

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    So if the goverment in the USA for example was corrupted, do you think the voters would elect terrorist organiztion to the leadership because they want to stop corruption?
     
    roiei, Jan 6, 2009 IP
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    Lexiseek Banned

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    Of course not. But that's because the average American believes in democracy.
     
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    It's incredible what idiotic comparisions you want to use...
    Are you seriously equaling Palestinians and US citizens?!?

    LOL Right. We can compare Palestinian refugees living for last 60 years in refugee camps in Gaza with average US citizen.
     
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    roiei Banned

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    You, me and every average palestinian has the option to choose!
     
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    You have problems with reality as I can see... No wonder than what are you doing with those Palestinians and no wonder they choose so extreme ways to fight you back.
     
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    roiei Banned

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    So you are saying that they don't have the option to choose?
     
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    So you are saying that A Palestinian refugee who whole his life lives in refugee camp, far away from his home, who doesn't have chance to have normal life because those who kicked his family from his home, who more or less can't survive if he don't get help from humanitarian organisations is in the same situation as US citizen?!? Is that what are you saying?!?
    Again, are you serious?
     
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    F33l1ngz Peon

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    Last time I heard Gaza is a city.
     
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    And that's related to what I am saying... how?
     
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    new Peon

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    #16
    Hamas were democratically elected but US/West only support those puppet 'democratic' Govt's which suit their interests
     
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    roiei Banned

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    #17
    First of all, what you are saying is not true but if it was true, yes he still has the same option to choose between right or wrong/bad or good (like every other person, no matter where he lives).
     
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    What I am saying is true no matter how much time you guys put in propaganda. But what you can't get it is that Palestinian refugee, you was kicked from his home and homeland by same people who these days making his life as hard as possible, don't have same priorities as US citizen.
    It's incredible that there's people who are able to equal Palestinians and US citizens! Amazing!
     
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    #19
    looks like Solana understands it better than the terrorist team in the Israeli Gvernment:

    Javier Solana said that Hamas want to liberate Palestine, how does Israel understands this? it depends on what they plan for Israel, despite its an illegal state that been founded on terrorism and massacres, and killing and expelling of the owners of the lands there, Hamas said they can accept Palestinian state within 1967 borders,

    of course Israel does not want to withdraw to 1967 borders, or accept a Palestinian state to have an end for this conflict, proof to this is the settlements in Palestinian territories, which never stopped even during peace negotiations,

    so for Israel a withdrawal to 1967 borders means destruction of Israel, they want to withdraw from Gaza, but they want to control borders, sky, and sea, same for West Bank except they do not want to withdraw from whole West Bank, and the parts they will withdraw from they want to keep controlling it, under the lame usual excuse of Israel security,

    so for them its ok for Palestinians to live in open-air prisons, as long as Israel is secure, it's ok for the scum settlers to keep making Palestinians lifes like hell, as long as Israel is secure, its ok for them to assassinate Palestinians, blockade, and set checkpoints that even Turkey prime minister had to stop more than an hour on one of them before he could enter Palestinian territories, so how it would be for Palestinians?

    what Israel do not understand, is that as long as Palestinians are not secure, Israelis will never be secure, and each time they make a new terrorist campaign, trying to scare people into giving up their democratically elected Government - they lose more security.

    Israelies themselves admired people of Gaza when they ousted their corrupted Government:

    as for Hamas and human shields, try to have little logic, and if your brain uses a button to function, then please switch it on, and think about the following paragraphs:

    assuming that Hezballah used human shields in 2006 war (which been proved not by reputable independent organizations), from the numbers of civilian victims then, it was very obvious that Israel did not care whether they used human shields or not, a person would use a human shield when he knows that the attacker would not shot when he sees that there are innocents involved, so why would they use human shields when Israel do not see them, and just bomb? and why would they use human shields when they know they won't prevent Israel from bombing if they saw them, and most importantly, why would Hamas now use human shields after they knew from 2006 that this does not work?
     
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    #20
    DP...the place where you can get free history lessons...from fucking imbeciles ;)
     
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