Is Demoz a trap for new webmasters to waste their valuable time?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by skillipedia, Jan 2, 2009.

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  1. #1
    There was a time when i thought Dmoz really matters so I had to spend most of my time in this forum getting into arguments with editors who were here to pick a fight and manifest their authority. But now that I know that Dmoz is useless why many webmasters are still active in this forum and why don't they[ dmoz editors] put a visible announcement in Dmoz front page: "Getting listed in this diretory is not a big deal"

    Be cool
     
    skillipedia, Jan 2, 2009 IP
  2. Caesar1

    Caesar1 Peon

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    I agree that DMOZ wasn't what it was, since now most people use search engines. I don't agree that editors like to fight nor would an editor think he or she has authority, anyone can become an editor. it does seem odd that so many claim its usless yet still post threads on the directory daily.

    Be Good
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    It is OK, for at least 95% of people who become editor is just a waste of time too since they will never advance behind their small category to actually do some useful listing. :D
     
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    If that is what they choose to do, it can't be a waste of their time. Like everyone else, editors can spend their hobby time as they like. :)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    It is not what they choose, it is because until you prove that you can close your eyes to the things that you are not suppose to see, there will be no chance to get more categories. ;)
     
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    Well, that is your opinion as a non-editor, and you are entitled to it, of course.

    As someone who has helped many hundreds of editors to understand the guidelines, improve their editing, and thereby expand their permissions, I have a different view. By posting here, all I aim to do is present people with correct information, if they are interested in the truth. :)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Are you sure? ;)
     
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  8. makrhod

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    Your statements prove that you don't understand how the directory works, so if you are an editor, you need to do a lot more reading. LOL.
     
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    You love arguing gworld and i cant understand why. You seem obsessed with claims about corruption and promotion of every other concievable, adverse claim that is made about dmoz.

    99.9% of editors are like me. Just simply an honest person doing a bit of editing as a hobby. We do it when we want, as often as we want and then we get to come here and get accused of all sorts of things.

    The most common ones are that we are lazy, only joined to submit our own sites, we are accused of supporting corruption when in all reality, we haven't done a thing wrong, certainly nothing improper or immoral.

    The sad part is that some misguided people visit the threads, see your comments and then claim them as facts.

    I feel sorry for you! To constantly incite, promote or prolong such ill feelings achieves nothing. Your words merely reflect the sort of character that you are. :(
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    Do you want to see who knows more about ODP? ;)
     
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    Do you mean the internal forum Ceasar ? If I could remember the usual handful of posters in there I would say about less than a hundred. :rolleyes:
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    99.9% of editors have nothing to say about how ODP is run and I have nothing against them. My problem with some of the senior editors who have destroyed the project. :)
     
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    Your are right, we get accused by metas without even knowing it and we get removed permanently without ever knowing the reason, seeing shred of evidence or given a chance to defend ourself. :mad:

    And these are the same metas who are whining about lack of editor??? :confused:

    Of course DMOZ is missing editors because metas removed many of them, rest were never allowed to advance, got bored and left.
     
    Ivan Bajlo, Jan 4, 2009 IP
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    It is natural that some removed editors are bitter and resentful about being caught out in their abuse, but I wish they wouldn't insult people's intelligence by continuing to lie about it months or years later. Surely it's time to move on?

    All editors are given plenty of opportunities and assistance to follow the directory's policies and guidelines, and it is only after blatantly and/or repeatedly ignoring these guidelines that closing their account becomes an option.
    Even then, every effort is made to persuade the editor to place the directory ahead of their own interests, but sadly, some people are simply unable to do this. That is unfortunate, and disappointing for everyone, but we do our best to keep the ODP honest and reliable by trying to identify and remove people who want to use it only for their own profit.
     
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    #15
    Dmoz is not a MUST for SEO but it just give you more advantage interm of quality backlinks. you still can rank well even without being approved in Dmoz though.
     
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    Don't forget that directory management is in the hands of AOL staff as well as volunteer administrators [Note: the page is broadly correct but very out of date, unfortunately.].
    And staff always have the final say, of course.

    These days, meta editors have no more influence in directory management than do category editors, so please don't assume that we do. :)
     
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    #17
    We already know several good editors got removed without valid reason just beacuse metas felt like it so STOP LYING!

    I got single warning related to my posts on this forum, nothing directly related to my editing so unless you have some some kind of proof (and you have access to my editing logs) please don't insult my intelligence.

    Is this copy/paste from meta official press release? They care so much about editors that they make every effort to cut there number down.
     
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    I realise that is what you believe. It is not the truth, and there is absolutely no evidence to support it (apart from hearsay, of course), but you have every right to believe it. All I can do is present accurate information backed up by references. :)
    Nope, all my own work.
    But thanks for the compliment - if AOL staff ever do write an "official meta press release", I'll suggest they include it. :D
     
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    What a BS. :rolleyes:

    90% of senior editors are in DMOZ for only one and only one reason, to make money.

    If you do not lie on purpose, then I don't know what can I say about your intelligence. Who knows, may be some members of Mafia also believe that they are good and honest people, working for the benefit of Italian-American society. :D

    I know, exactly how it works. Unfortunately Admins and some of the staff are not much better either. It was not long ago that I showed proof of how one of the Admins was involved in commercial activity. This fact was accepted by a respectable editor of that time which most likely was one the reasons that they throw her out, since she knew too much about Admin. ;)
     
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    You have made this claim in about 4 posts already with nothing to back it up, I think most of them were locked.:rolleyes:
     
    Caesar1, Jan 5, 2009 IP
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