Steroids, Would you use em?

Dan the person you created this thread for to scare knows it as well so nice try.

You have been proven wrong of the 'all steroids angle'

Dan the product was legal, I have been up front about it the entire time have I not? What are you trying to prove..

If you were really doing an honest poll it would not state

Which is what you're trying to claim to that special someone, I would 'beat' them.

I also gained 15 pounds in 2 weeks, for my size from Dan that's maybe 8 pounds for someone else of normal size. Some of it was water weight from creatine, some muscle.. Why lie again Dan?

PCT needs to be done for natural supplements as well Dan, you really have no clue what you are talking about..

Your blog at the time also stated Superdrol a steroid? when you started this thread, of course it was an attack on me, and she knows it as well Dan...

Very pathetic attempt, pathetic indeed.

Ohyeah dangerous steroid by some, so again pot must = eating babies by that twisted logic,,,nice try, nice failing try Dan.

 

You've completely lost me??

 

Aye feeling lathargic/tired is certainly a symptom of Superdrol.

Grim is also injured at the moment - more then likely due to his over-training if you caught his mention of how often he trains in this thread.

He certainly has an unhealthy (literally) obsession with bodybuilding, which obviously leads to putting alsorts of crap down your neck that not only effect the liver but the psyche and lord knows what else. All the information is out there on the effects and to be pedantic about different types of 'steroid' steroids' or pro-hormones etc is just excusing and ignoring the fact that they're a load of bollocks that should be left alone if one has any respect for their body.

Some people will do anything to get bigger unfortunately (to the detriment to their overall health), but to try and defend steroid use etc is plain foolish.

Grim mate - you're the only one looking like a fool!

Pete

 

Arny Schwarzenegger did some crazy stuff when he was still a pro bodybuilder. Not saying it was all the steroids or not causing him to lose it, but I'm sure they didn't make things better either.

 

Gadood you need to reread...

I have not been backing up steroid use, I have said it is wrong..
I have attempted to seperate 'bad steroids' from steroids that are legal and not bad, something you are not seeing..So Vitamin d usage is abuse is it?

Unhealthy obsession? I use lifting weights instead of drinking, instead of smoking. Yeah you're right I'd be better off smoking and drinking then lifting.

My injury has nothing to do with over training, it has everything to do with changing my grip on my bench press out to far, causing a chest tear and shoulder injury.

Gadood you have no clue, yet you spout off from your ass..

Nice try.

 

You sound like you are posting through a red mist.

btw, that was a five minute scan of pubmed for a few quick references to give some further reading for anyone who was interested; it was not a thesis on how steroid abuse can mess you up.

Yeah, yeah, everyone who ended up in hospital "did it wrong" -- it was nothing at all to do with the steroids.

I have two words for you that prove, and I mean PROVE, that abusing steroids will lead to an early grave.

Ready?










Professional Wrestling

 

Read what you will into why I made this thread. I simply wanted to get peoples opinion on this thats all

 

another vote for steroid use ...

 

people love to hate steroids for some reason

 

Grim, reading your blog sure does make it sound like an unhealthy obsession, and I wouldn't be surprised that you will have many injuries during the time you keep at it, hopefully less while you do what is proven to be the correct ways of lifting.

I also think that you sound depressed and angry throughout your posts here and on your blog, these are both symptoms of steroids and other drug usages, so I would rethink the items your are taking even if they are considered harmless by peers. I would hate to lose another DPer over suicide, or see you lose control and kill someone.

Try natural supplements (food matrix) that may help your body to repair quickly after training instead of the steroid type items you may already be taking, good supplements such as mannatech products do not have side affects.

 

@ Debunked..

Lifting is all I have to keep me from using drugs, that's the truth

As far as angry and depressed, fair enough, but it's not from drugs.

I actually eat very healthy, mostly all protein, standard creatine, vitamins, etc for supplements.

The superdrol I bought w/o knowing what it was 'designer steroid', I found out before I used any of it, for a reason i wont bring up I was extremely down and didn't give a crap about myself so I took 1/2 the bottle. I am truthful on using the product, 1/2 a bottles worth, but there is more to the story

Either way you are spot on about me being angry and depressed, but it's for a different reason..

 

hope things get better, Grim. But whether steroids (or whatever you wanna call it) are to blame ... I still wouldn't take them.

 

Well, it is good to know you realize that about yourself, maybe start with changing your name from grim?!?!

Next, turn off that music - let me guess, either screamo music or the stuff Shawn listens too, that is very dark and depressing!

Then focus on others, like family, that you care for and love (unless this is where your anger is, then learn forgiveness, it is really, really, really freeing)

 

jeez lousie

I say screw that grim , throw on some minor threat and go hit the weights

family, friends , happiness etc are way over rated

 

WOW!

how depressing........

 

hehehe...there are some very misinformed people on this board when it comes to proper workout regimes, cycles, safety, and of course post cycle therapy.

Bobby

 

Agreed.

 

Self-assurance of knowing you're better than your genetic maximum? Trying to compete someday? Not everyone has to be a Pro to be a big ass 'mofo, lots of Regional and National level competitors are MONSTERS.

Nah, I haven't used. I'm only 16, endocrine system isn't fully developed and I do not feel like "speeding up" puberty and the creation of a whole slew of nerves and connections in my brain which develop with age. I can't say in the future I will or will not, because my interests may change or injuries may come in the future that will not allow me to continue training.

Yeah, the Valentino part of that documentary was CRAZY! He had another one along with "Little Hercules", who's father was pumping a few compounds into the kid as he was growing up.

Lots of long-time AAS users start to use the harsh compounds like Trenbelone, Anadrol, and other HIGHLY toxic oral or intramuscular compounds. But, like anything, even smoking a cigarette once can lead to health complications in the future. It's a risk you assume to take, nothing is 100% safe but things can be prevented.

Yeah, back in the day steroids were little blue pills -- 5mg of Dianabol. They took 3 a day, 1 with breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Science now says that was a stupid way of doing it, for the very LITTLE benefit 15mg/ED of Dianabol did for a person. Back in the day, they had amazing size from dedication and eating like a horse.

Not everyone, no, but I'm willing to bet the better majority of people who have immediate complications of using AAS have incorrectly followed protocol for oncycle, used improper doseages, bad batches of gear from bunk sources, lots of things can fall into the same boat as "did it wrong".

And yeah, I'm an avid follower of bodybuilding and a hardcore gym-rat. At my peak I was 226lbs with 17" arms, 45" chest, 28" quads, 17.5" calves and I was hovering in the low-teens of bodyfat with visible abs flexed. A herniated disc has put me off for about 5 months but I'm back now, it's a healthy lifestyle and a great motivator to improve oneself if they start noticing gains coming along they are pleased with. I'm going to defend steroid use to the fullest of misunderstanding and media propaganda I disagree with and "know better". There's a risk every steroid user assumes with possible complications, but an educated steroid user knows and understands these risks -- and knows how to prevent them to the best extent of human science.

 

If steroids didn't make my giant, massive penis/testicles smaller, I'd definately take them.

 

I think you are confusing your reflection with your 'nads. (The 'nads are the tiny little appendages just at the top of your legs.)