Israel & Palestinian diplomacy

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ncz_nate, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #41
    Lol, you guys must think it is some kind of insult to call me by those names. You can call me Islamic, you can call me Jewish, you can call me Hindu, or Christian. You can call me Mohammed or Ehud, or Joe. Personally, I don't find any of those names insulting.

    Just don't call me a member of Hamas or other Islamic terrorist group - that would be insulting.
     
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  2. imad

    imad Peon

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    #42
    again you make images in your mind, then reply to them.
     
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  3. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #43
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    What's dishonest is taking us to the point to where we are debating who is responsible for the death of the hostages. This is something the terrorist sympathizers are good at. Deflect, change focus, last but not least, blame the jews.

    In the US and other civilized countries(like the one you're taking advantage of, Canada) if you create conditions that causes others to be harmed you are held responsible. If I scream "FIRE!!" in a crowded theater and someone gets trampled to death, who is responsible for the death? I am.

    The PLO was responsible for the deaths of the hostages and others by initiating a violent hostage situation on the world stage as a means to a political end. Period. They created the situation, any responsibility lies solely with them.
     
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  4. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    #44
    Over the last three or four days I've heard many news channels and read many newspapers, but that particular slant on recent events has not been alleged anywhere. Not even by other Arab nations. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #45
    Did you speak out against the 7/7 bombings?
     
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  6. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #46
    Indeed and if we never went into Iraq or supported Israeli terrorists, they wouldn't have happened.
     
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  7. imad

    imad Peon

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    #47
    let's see if you can develop your own view, what can be considered a violation of the truce? do you know the truce terms?
     
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  8. alexa_s

    alexa_s Peon

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    #48
    Sorry, Imad - I'm not trying to be rude to you, but the conversation's just become too silly for me to be willing to occupy any more of my time with it. Long experience of sometimes posting in forums has taught me that there's no mileage in arguing over current issues with people who believe things that aren't true. I'll leave you to it.
     
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  9. imad

    imad Peon

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    #49
    don't worry, I know for some it becomes too silly, but in any case, it won't take much time though, and you can do it at anytime.

    get the truce terms, they are available online, then watch the events sequence which are also available online, compare the events with the truce terms, and when you see a violation of the truce, check to see which side did it, makes sense?
     
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  10. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #50
    Yeah and the Caucasus Caliphate Jihad wouldn't have carried out their terrorist acts in Russia; Abu Sayyaf would not be kidnapping, raping, bombing and extorting in southeast Asia; Turkish Hezbollah wouldn't be bombing and killing in Turkey; the GIA wouldn't have terrorized Algeria by kidnapping civilians and slitting their throats; Lashkar-e-Toiba -- a Pakistani based terrorist group wouldn't be blowing the shit out of Indian civilians; neither would Jaish-e-Mohammed.

    There's enough there to keep you busy justifying for a while, but if you need more, here's some.

    When I was a young man I had a friend. Let's call him Bob. Bob was an asshole. Everywhere Bob went he got into fights with people. Everyone knew Bob was an asshole except for Bob. Bob was good at justifying the reasons of why he seemed to get into a fight with people everywhere he went. In short, his justifications boiled down to the fact(according to him) that everyone else was an asshole. I haven't seen Bob for a while and I don't miss him. Hopefully people haven't reinforced his assholish behaviour by justifying the reasons for him picking fights with everyone. Because that, in the end, makes more than just Bob an asshole.
     
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  11. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #51
    Talking to yourself again? If you want to reply to my post, feel free to do so...
     
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  12. LogicFlux

    LogicFlux Peon

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    #52
    At least Bob could read.
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #53
    Your posting are contrary to your claim. How does supporting Israel benefit the strategic interests of USA? In no way.

    Well, Senators and presidents get money from Israel lobby and it is almost impossible for anyone to become a president if he does not declare his loyalty to Israel. That is the reason they sell their country, political ambitions and money. If you are claiming that you sell your country for no gain, then I must say that is pretty stupid, don't you think so? ;)

    I haven't done any research on my own, but from your post it seems you agree with Imad that Israel athletes were shot by German police snipers on the order of Israel government. Despite this fact, you think PLO is to blame because they started the chain of events. Is this correct?
     
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  14. Ohad

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    #54
    Since 14th May 1948, Israel called for peace with her neighbors.

    P.S
    From reading the comments to browntwn's words, I understand that imad and Thraxed cannot accept the fact that there is some people in the world that thinks logically. browntwn must be an Israeli if he thinks logically? That must be a compliment for me...

    P.S P.S
    Thraxd is banned again... hooray!
     
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  15. imad

    imad Peon

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    #55
    I m sure you can provide some source as many won't take your seriously when you say something like "since May 14th 1948" which is the same day when the Zionists terrorist gangs started 1948 war.
     
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  16. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #56
    What is logical for an Israeli, is not necessary logical for an American. It is logical for you to put Israel interests above all and it makes you a patriot but when browntwn does the same thing while claiming to be an American then it makes him a traitor. ;)
     
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    #57
    It would only make him a traitor if the US was at war with Israel. Since they are allies...
    Now when a group is blowing up cars and trains in your country, supporting them would be traitorous.
     
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  18. browntwn

    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #58
    And what interest, as an American, do I have supporting Hamas over Israel.

    Israel's interests overlap with America's interests in this case. Hamas is designated as a terrorist organization by my government.

    It is not Israel who tries to kill Americans. It is not Israel who chants death to America. It is not Israel who is sworn to the destruction of any people.

    You want to call me a traitor to my country for agreeing with my country's position? What would make me a traitor would be supporting Hamas - Hamas is the entity that America defines as a terrorist. You simply want to call me names because I happen to agree with my country's policy in this area.

    You have no argument. You have no logic. It is sad that you feel the need to resort to questioning my patriotism. It shows that you have no real arguments to make on the facts and are simply looking to bait or insult me.

    I pity that you do not know the taste of freedom and democracy as I do. I feel free to agree with my government, to question my government, I am an American!
     
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  19. Ohad

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    #59
    Traitor? Why? Because he, like any other American pay less than $1 per month (3 billion / 300 million = $10 per year = $0.83 per month) for having the only ally in the middle east?! The middle east is full of USA-haters, and USA "allies" like Jordan and Saudi Arabia are not true allies. Why? Most of their citizens LOATHES AMERICA. Ask imad, he can tell you about that. In Israel, the sympathy for USA is very very very strong.
    We are true allies of America. Thank you America!

    imad - You are invited to read Israel's independence declaration and you will see yourself.
     
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  20. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #60
    LOL. :D

    But why do they hate America? Isn't because of America support of Israel? :rolleyes:

    Arab countries have oil, Israel can not even support itself.
    Arab countries have money, Israel needs hand out from USA.
    Arab countries are much bigger market for American products than Israel

    Even a blind can see what friendship is more beneficial for U.S.A. So the question is, Why American politicians and neo-cons are ready to sacrifice U.S.A strategic interests because of Tel Aviv wishes? ;)
     
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