So you are saying that wikipedia (that anyone cane edit) has more credibility than the word of a man who was assistant to Israel prime minister or Mossad? Here is the names of editors of the site that imad is using as source: The Editors (in alphabetic order) Ofra Ben-Artzi Sam Blatt Daniel Breslau Victoria Buch Ilana Druker Ruth Fleishman Roni Hammermann Dorit Hershkovitz Rachel Hertz Edna Kadman Jacob Katriel Adam Keller Ofer Neiman David Nir Eddie Saar Rama Yacobi Beate Zilversmidt It doesn't look like Arabic, Muslim names.
The fact that anyone can edit wikipedia seems to me to make it more objective due to edit wars that occur and then settle. At any particular time there may be some skewed opinions but it's a process that is more open to peer review than the process that is undergone through getting published on an activist site. Information that comes from activist organizations is pretty much by definition biased. There are jews that sympathize with other side(an indication of empathy which is an indication of being raised by civilized principles), it doesn't mean that they are unbiased. Most people who have any serious interest in the issue is biased since it's an inherently emotional issue which draws upon subjective experiences to conclude what are the right and wrong things that have been done by both sides and to what degree were they right or were they wrong. My only point is that I thought nate was trying to create a thread for objective information and reasoning on the subject and that won't be accomplished by just repeating the same old activist propaganda, no matter which side it comes from. But I didn't really expect it to happen anyway since this forum seems to be used more for getting information out that serves an agenda than it is about discussing issues in order to gain knowledge.
You must be joking. Do you know that wikipedia is not accepted as source in most universities and wikipedia itself makes no claim about being accurate? How can such source be more "factual" than the work of man who was involved in the event or official Mossad claim? Let's dismantle the congress library and the National archives, after all who needs such institutes when we have wikipedia?
It's not accepted at universities, but what about collages? Fine. I'll post articles from AIPAC and you post articles from jewwatch and we'll get the same old prepackaged, biased propaganda that we always get in all the other threads.
I didn't know that you are also member of missing balls chicken brigade and the best you can do is to imitate your commander the Corporal potato. Are you also like Mia, in process of sex change operation, in case they decide to introduce draft in U.S.A? Imad, claimed certain facts and he used the words of Israel prime minister assistant and Mossad documents as his source. Either prove he is wrong by showing other reputable source or accept his claim. Don't be so God damn dishonest like the rest of your chicken brigade.
I understand that Tel Aviv will compensate you for your loss and you will come out with profit but I was talking about those Americans who don't sell their country.
Another Dual American-Israeli citizen? Best hit the closest plain to Israel, before the true Americans kick you out themselves Yitzhak. The Americans get sick of the leeches like you who in a time of war would dodge the draft or quickly jump to Israel, you showed who your true allegience is to, and it aint to the united states!
How dare you question my allegiance to America. I am 100% American and support it over all other nations, always have and always will. Are you a traitor to England because you support terrorist groups like Hamas? For you to question my patriotism merely because I support Israel's right to defend itself against Hamas is absurd on its face. You have no shame. Only a fool would try to say that I do not support America. You have lost all credibility. Of course, it is just projection from you since you are the one yesterday who said you wanted to donate to Hamas when it was said they are sworn to Israel's destruction. Just because you sell out your own country for your Hamas brethren does not mean others are equally disloyal. Fuck off for calling me a traitor to my country. If you said it to my face I would kick your ass on the spot.
Did i hit a nerve? You are the one that would rather have your tax dollars spent on Israel than the country you live in, that tells me you love Israel more than America, i'm not too sure what your fellow citizens would make of that, Yitzhak. I'm not a traitor to England because i do not support Israel, there is a difference. You would rather your tax dollars be spent on Israel than the country you live in. I would rather my tax dollars be spent on ENGLAND, not Israel, unlike you. I always had a feeling you had more of an allegience to Israel than the USA, well anyway, the ticket booth is waiting for you to return to your homeland, enjoy the joruney Yitzhak!
browntwn, there is nothing wrong in loving your country, its just wrong to hide your real citizenship.
US Senators and our Presidents support Israel because it is in our national interest to do so. I support the same. According to your logic every President and Senator who supports Israel a traitor? It is that pathetic logic that dooms most of your claims on this forum and dooms groups like Hamas to failure. Your fundamental refusal to acknowledge that America supports democracies and freedom not groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and other Islamic terrorist groups. England classifies Hamas as a terrorist group. You support a group your own government calls a terrorist. The FACTS are clear. I have never been to Israel but would love to visit some day!
Yeah, Egypt and Saudi Arabia just to name a few, Ehud. There is a difference between supporting Israel, and wanting your tax dollars spent on Israel, this means your allegience is with Israel and not the USA. I'm not sure if your fellow citizens would be too happy to see you are just there to leech off them and not because you want to be American. Get that plane ticket to Tel Aviv ready just incase there is a draft soon!
Hamas (or what's left of them after this) will have to decide for themselves whether this was really worth breaching the cease-fire for. My guess is that from their perspective it wasn't. Israel, in spite of some of its recent forbearance, has a longstanding record of defending itself with acumen, vigour and efficiency if provoked and attacked enough, but I guess some people are just slow learners.
I guess you heard the news channel and came directly to post? it was not Hamas who violated the truce, it was Israel.