I'm Rich, Bitch!

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by David Jackson, Dec 30, 2008.

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  1. john1021

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    #21
    TheRichJerk really is rich. However, most people that sell get rich e-books are just people that are trying to make money for themselves and will eventually be rich if they have a good sales letter.
     
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  2. TommySC

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    #22
    Now I have a question. :D

    After reading this stuff it seems like everyone is from the school of distrust first... ask questions later. I suppose I can understand this logic due to many the inevitable presence of scammers in places like this. However my question is; why so pessimistic?

    Is it because the title or description is misleading and causing you to think that you will indeed "get RICH really QUICK"? Would a method that could net you up to $5k a week with some (but not hard) setup do it for you? I sell and eBook and guess what... It works 100% as I advertise. Now I also suppose it depends on what you consider "rich", but hell - you can make $2k-$5k a week no problem. It is not my intention to "spam" this thread So I am not going to answer any questions about my book or methods. I am simply using it as an example of something that is what it appears to be. I am far from an author, but I have my Niche that I do very well in.

    I am just surprise at how quick everyone is to say that stuff is fake, a scam, or something negative along those lines. The review system is there for a reason... you can't honestly think everything in the market is pure garbage. That just wouldn't be a fair assumption IMO.
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  3. copper12

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    #23
    And you know he is rich because, John???...


    Yeah, but Tommy, many of them land up buying in the end anyway, so....

    I don't pay any attention to such comments. I know most if not practically all of them will buy in the end anyway.
     
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  4. Hagen

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    #24
    It depends on the person making the claim. Some people I believe. Others are full of crap.

    I'm more inclined to believe someone when the claim is simply stated as a fact of the results they've had from implementing what they teach, as opposed to them saying "Hey, look at this sweet Lamborghini I just bought, and I'm just a lousy beach bum who only works for 2 hours a week and if you buy my course, you can do the same!"

    Also, I judge by how "realistic" they make it sound to achieve the kind of money they're talking about. If they make it sound like you can sit on your ass all day and make a fortune, or be making money in 5 minutes from now just by slapping up a few sites, I usually run the other way. If, on the other hand, they make it sound like an actual BUSINESS that you'll have to work at in order to see results, then it's more believable.

    Also, if the person has a track record of putting out high quality content that actually works, that's another credit in their favor.

    I know Eben Pagan (the guy behind Double Your Dating) for example has said that his businesses generate around $20 mil. a year, or at least they did as of last year. He didn't say HE personally earns $20 mil. a year, but seeing as Double Your Dating alone has been the dominant player in one of the hottest niches around for several years, that could very well be an accurate claim.

    Of course the only way to know for sure is to ask them to show you their bank account.
     
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  5. TommySC

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    #25
    Possibly... but the last thing I want is someone to BUY my eBook and not be happy or be able to do with it what I told them they could.
    Maybe we just call that honesty and a clear conscious... but the last thing I personally want to do it just sell the method, grab the cash, and let people get pissed off.

    I look long-term. Providing something that people are truly happy about and successful with - will ABSOLUTELY make you and your venture much more successful in the long run. Again, this thread is not about me - I am just trying to convey that not everyone is a scammer and not every money making "eBook" is utter garbage.
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  6. Hagen

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    #26
    And I think that's the crux of the issue. Some people have the same attitude that you have and only want to put out quality material that works. Other people just want to make a quick buck and will make any kinds of claims to get people to buy. Unfortunately those people give a bad name to the rest.
     
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  7. copper12

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    #27
    I agree.

    This is why I give them a slew of free tips they can read on my site before they even buy.

    I don't know why others don't do it. I guess because their stuff is shit, typical run of the mill methods read 10,000 times before like the brainless noobs here post, and they know it. Like signatures. *shrugs shoulders*
     
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    #28
    I agree with Dant Player. I know someone who is really making it in the Internet Marketing and he's extremely quite about it.
     
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    #29
    TommySC, there are too many people that fall into the traps. I can't sit here and say that all of them are scams. But i'm not going to encourage someone to type in "make money online" and grab the first ebook they see on affiliate marketing. There are too many people out there in this game, many of which who will do or say anything to earn a buck. It's sad, but thats just the way it is.
     
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    #30
    I hope your tutorials aren't as confusing as that sentence and make more sense ....

    I do agree with you, most eBooks are shit, there are some - that are good ..... and for those that say "why would someone share a million dollar secret" - the answer is simple .... because 90% of readers will never put it into action and 5% of those that do - will give up early ....
     
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  11. TommySC

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    #31
    That is not the specific reason that I put any of my methods up for sale; but, I have actually found that to be true. I do have some readers that are really working it out and recouping one hundred-fold ... but many just read it, get excited about it but than never follow through.

    This just has to do with the type of person though. Big plans no action... It makes me think of this quote:
    "Life passes most people by while they're making grand plans for it" (Boiler Room)
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    #33
    Anybody trying to sell an idea that makes (x) amount of dollars for less than that product is worth to them over the course of it's lifespan is selling you a pile of junk period.

    People who advertise their money making secrets for 1/100 of the amount they can make it from it themselves are also blowing smoke up you know what.

    People who advertise links to money making methods in signatures also make me laugh but everyone has to start somewhere no?
     
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    #34
    Uau, nice thread guys. :) Just my 2 cents: wanna get richer? Marry a rich girl.
     
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    #35
    LoL .... or because DP is a wholesale nightmare and asking for a realistic price here is out of the question ....

    Noooo .... not at all .... some of us like the instant cash and don't like the waiting periods involved with being an ad' publisher .... ever heard of multiple income streams ?

    No .... ever heard of SEO ? or bots or link juice ? marketing ....

    Huh ? to proud ? everyone needs more money .... fact.
     
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    #36

    Those are some great responses. Shall I respond?

    Not a single successful person would sell a website that is growing in revenue. People sell websites that are losing revenue and they can't figure out why. Hence why they need the money.

    If you need instant cash there are many other problems you are having financially and that has nothing to do with having more then 1 stream of income, if you have multiple streams why do you need to sell one off for a loss? Maybe I have some stocks you'd be interested in?

    I have heard of SEO thanks for the concern, but I don't care because I'm beyond a point that I need to add a signature to this forum to drive sales or leads to any of my web ventures ever again.

    If you can look up the fact that clearly states people need more money beyond a certain point I'll be happy to take it into consideration until then I can assure you that statement for myself is based on fact.


    I recently found some enjoyment reading these forums and that is all I am here to do from time to time.
     
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    #37
    Huh ? now that's going off the point .... the point is selling an eBook, an idea, a method, a tutorial and not a web site.

    Nah .... wrong field again, selling a tutorial is 100% profit, hence why it's good - well for me it is .... I can risk sharing my methods, because 90% of buyers never follow through and put it into action ....

    But that's why so many of us do it .... I am glad you're making money, but laughing and mocking at those less fortunate is cruel .... I was successful once to .... but now I can't focus my efforts online like I used to .... but in saying "I don't need anymore money" - you are wrong then ? you would mean I don't need the lousy visitors or SEO ?

    - bloody kids LoL - 9 month old keeps me busy.
     
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    #38
    I never intended my post to mock anyone. If that is the way it came across then I apologize. I just write my opinion and nothing else.
     
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    #39
    Yeah. It's funny how a lot of people online brag about how much they make and then try to turn around and sell their eBook. I think these guys make a lot more money selling their "methods" then they do with their method.

    I'll give you an example, the most current methods for PVA for craigslist accounts are somewhat difficult and time consuming. A good marketeer can make at least $1,000 on craigslist per 100 accounts but they have to buy proxies, an auto poster, create the accounts, phone verify them, etc. This all takes time.

    Now if they sell their method for $100 to 1,000 people all they have to do is type up their method 1 time and spam internet forums. They make more money selling their method than they do advertising on craigslist. Now in reality they are providing a service for newbies that is valuable because they may spend $100 and spend the time to make the $1,000.

    Most people who sit around a sell a method to get rich are either too lazy, or selling a method is just more profitable. - This is just an example BTW and one I thought of while reading this thread.
     
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    #40
    yeah
    just crap and I don't believe it
    it doesn't make any sense
    that thousands of people declared that they are rich
    instead, they are bitch
     
    add1t, Dec 30, 2008 IP
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